Topic: Is there any possibility that USA can be defeated? 8

Italian Guy · February 7th, 2006

I noticed this has turned into a U.S. vs. rest of the world thread.

jedi078 · February 7th, 2006

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Originally Posted by Italian Guy

I noticed this has turned into a U.S. vs. rest of the world thread.

Yeah which is screwed up since the US assisted Europe twice during the last century.

As for my two cents:

If sombody wanted to take out U.S. CVN's they would have to use Tactical Nuclear weapons.

If attacked by four fronts I would think (and hope) that the U.S.would use Tactical Nuclear Weapons as a defense measure, that is if an ICBM strike was not first used on the invading country's homland.

AND we all KNOW that the use of nuclear weapons today would open pandora's box, so to speak.

Missileer · February 7th, 2006

We have more ICBMs than there are countries. If there was nothing left back home to return to, I think that would deter most countries. There is always the 7th fleet to get by on the oceans. That type of war wouldn't be fought with armies. The atmosphere of the Earth would be heated to a temperature which nothing on the planet could live in it. Such is what happens when literally thousands of thermonuclear devices detonate. The atmosphere can't cool as fast as the devices can heat it. No one would win because there wouldn't be time to take a deep breath before flash heat superheated every surface on Earth.

zander_0633 · February 7th, 2006

Well, the country with the most Nuclear Warhead is Russia, then followed by USA to be correct.

therise21 · February 8th, 2006

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Originally Posted by zander_0633

Well, the country with the most Nuclear Warhead is Russia, then followed by USA to be correct.

missileer stated that we have more ICBMs than there are countries, not that we have more ICBMs than any other country.

zander_0633 · February 8th, 2006

well, sorry! wrong answer!

ASTRALdragon · February 8th, 2006

I don't think that any modern Western nation can really be "defeated" today. Most of the industrialized nations are too structured and stable to be defeated today. If there were to be a war, it might just be minor military skirmishes then the UN would intervene or both countries would work some kind of a treaty/ceasefire out due to global condemnation. Sure a country can suffer a military defeat, but as for the lands being invaded? I don't know about that...

As for the topicc question, the only way I think the US can be defeated is internally, i.e. economic collapse (federal deficit don't look too good these days), civil unrest, panic (terrorism), etc. Militarily, the US is too damn strong. Just look at their defense budget compared to any other countries. If I remember correctly, the US spends what is equivalent to a couple of nations' GNP combined!

zander_0633 · February 8th, 2006

Whoa! So you are suggesting a internal strife? OR can I said internal rebellion? I don't think that is possible within the US. It seems to be quite peaceful now!

Missileer · February 8th, 2006

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Originally Posted by zander_0633

I don't think that is possible within the US. It seems to be quite peaceful now!

Well, so did Denmark and Europe in general.

zander_0633 · February 9th, 2006

haha, So a war is unlikely. Unless some drastic measures are made by the Government that makes the majority of the people unhappy.

February 7th, 2006	Post 71
Italian Guy Milforum Hitman Gear	I noticed this has turned into a U.S. vs. rest of the world thread. __________________ "Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it". Pericles.

February 7th, 2006	Post 73
Missileer Nuclear Duck Hunter Gear	We have more ICBMs than there are countries. If there was nothing left back home to return to, I think that would deter most countries. There is always the 7th fleet to get by on the oceans. That type of war wouldn't be fought with armies. The atmosphere of the Earth would be heated to a temperature which nothing on the planet could live in it. Such is what happens when literally thousands of thermonuclear devices detonate. The atmosphere can't cool as fast as the devices can heat it. No one would win because there wouldn't be time to take a deep breath before flash heat superheated every surface on Earth. __________________ “War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.” —John Stuart Mill

February 7th, 2006	Post 74
zander_0633 Milforum Gnat Gear	Well, the country with the most Nuclear Warhead is Russia, then followed by USA to be correct. __________________ - Ready To Strike -

February 8th, 2006	Post 76
zander_0633 Milforum Gnat Gear	well, sorry! wrong answer!

February 8th, 2006	Post 77
ASTRALdragon Centurion Gear	I don't think that any modern Western nation can really be "defeated" today. Most of the industrialized nations are too structured and stable to be defeated today. If there were to be a war, it might just be minor military skirmishes then the UN would intervene or both countries would work some kind of a treaty/ceasefire out due to global condemnation. Sure a country can suffer a military defeat, but as for the lands being invaded? I don't know about that... As for the topicc question, the only way I think the US can be defeated is internally, i.e. economic collapse (federal deficit don't look too good these days), civil unrest, panic (terrorism), etc. Militarily, the US is too damn strong. Just look at their defense budget compared to any other countries. If I remember correctly, the US spends what is equivalent to a couple of nations' GNP combined!

February 8th, 2006	Post 78
zander_0633 Milforum Gnat Gear	Whoa! So you are suggesting a internal strife? OR can I said internal rebellion? I don't think that is possible within the US. It seems to be quite peaceful now!

February 9th, 2006	Post 80
zander_0633 Milforum Gnat Gear	haha, So a war is unlikely. Unless some drastic measures are made by the Government that makes the majority of the people unhappy.