Who is terrorist and who isn't?

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May 30th, 2011   #1
Metin
 

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Actually, islam is the most dynamic and military spirited religion in the World. And easiest to corrupt. Because, nobody lives now who knows 7th century Arabic. And it's different from present Arabic. You say a common man "There (Qur'an) writes kill the infidels!" he believes. Over 200 years of consumption by the western world brought them to this point. I understand why western leaders do that, it is easy to rule the ignorant. But if you lose control over them someone'll make'em believe what he says and convince them to attack you.

There is a misunderstanding between civilizations. Not every muslim is terrorist. Especially if they weren't consumed by the westerners.

My country, for example, Turkey. %99 of the population is muslim. As a nation our warcry is "Allah Allah..." and we are having one of the hardest fights with terrorism. Because of some religious fundamentalist terrorists, you can't tell every muslim is terrorists. If you tell them, theywon't react kindly. If you say terrorist in here you mean rude and crackheaded PKK militias. (a.k.a. baby killers)

Something is terribly wrong... I saw some people just swearing at muslims. This isn't true man.

I say this as a human being (homo sapiens) and a deist.
 
May 30th, 2011   #2
rattler
 
 
Noted.

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May 31st, 2011   #3
Del Boy
 
Likewise.


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May 31st, 2011   #4
lvcabbie
 
 

Me too.


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May 31st, 2011   #5
84RFK
 
 
Well Metin.

Fact is that every kind of -ism or religion represent a danger to the humanity in some way or another when some followers turn to fanatic or fundamentalistic ideas.

I believe Mustafa Kemal (Atatürk) understood the connection, and that's why he made the old Ottoman empire into a modern secular state with a democratic foundation.

As for muslims, just like hindus, jews, catholics, protestants and any other religion or belief, you will find good people and bad people.
Just look at the "Troubles" in Northern Ireland, and how Mahatma Ghandi got assasinated, or the Middle East, or....the list goes on.

I avoided some Pakistani youths who was probably celebrating the 911 by turning into a small alley, there I meet an middle aged Pakistani who was busy stacking crates of fresh vegetables outside his little grocery shop at the corner.
He looked at me, and then looked out in the main street at the cheering youths, and just shook his head.
He prayed 5 times a day, went to the Mosque, and was probably a true believing muslim, but his main battle was focused upon making a living for himself and his family, and to provide for his children to get an education.
His war couldn't be won by bombs and terrorism, only by hard work, and thus he found no pleasure in knowing that thousands of people was killed.
 
June 1st, 2011   #6
-- Dusty
 
 
I have asked this before- what is the true definition of terrorist? If the situation in the Middle East was reversed, and was happening here, I guarantee you us Americans would be fighting just as hard if not harder. But then it gets one to wonder how far are we from that situation arising?

Terrorism is using violence and the threat of violence to intimidate and manipulate the people and political establishments to perform as the persons committing the violence or threatening the violence wish. So when you look at it from that perspective, you'll see that terrorism is happening as we speak in America and most if not all nations in some form or fashion.

As for Islam, I have difficulty with it because I know that in the Quran it talks of how it's ok to lie so the muslums can kill infidels. Muslums can literally do nearly anything, in the name of Allah for Allah.

So Metin, someone such as yourself could be telling us the truth. Or you could be lying. Both of which is permissible by Allah (or so says tha Quran).

Coincidentally, Allah is the Arabic word for God. When you break it down to the very origin of religion, Islam and Christianity appears to have the same God. But then it has been a few years since I read up on that and compared scriptures and history, so who knows.
 
June 1st, 2011   #7
Metin
 
I agree, but islam had an invisible reform during 9th and 10th centuries.

At first, for islam, there was a Dar-ul Harb(home of war) and dar-ul islam(home of islam) but when the arabic siege on Constantinople failed, muslims agreed there is another home. It was something like home of caesefire...

This is important because arabs lost their spirit to fight then. Actually islamic regions was rich enough and nobody wanted to fight. So my ancestors came, nomadic tribes of the Turks, accepted religious conversion, became their soldier-servants. But they had potential and agility to rule, so the used their manpower to push into chistian lands. They crushed a huge Byzantine army at Manzikert, annexed Anatolia and dominated the population. Settled down and asserted their dominion.

Arabs wasn't in the fight for that moment. they lived. they even didn't paid their taxes decently. They rebelled. But Ottomans tolerated them and let them do what they want.

Jihad spirit for the Arabs went to sleep. Now thanks to Israel and CIA, it is awoken...

In islam, many things are uncertain. You can say whatever you want, and show some words from the book to make people agree. That book is really an epic fail...
 
June 12th, 2011   #8
r.fox
 
 
the terrorist stereotypical ideas are so stupid. i have heard that on a flight to New York, some of the passengers were scared that two people dressed in full Islamic attire, were terrorists so they complained to the air plane hostess and the two Islamic people in question were thrown of the plane and forced to go on another flight- they were heading to an multi-religious peace meeting. oh i forgot to mention that this was after the us special forces bumped off Osama bin laden

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June 12th, 2011   #9
84RFK
 
 
Let's just be happy that most of those terrorists are stuck with ideology based in the 1400's and still haven't got their focus away from blood, gore, and self-sacrifice.
 
July 22nd, 2011   #10
rocky71
 
 
" Either slain thou shalt go to heaven; or victorious thou shalt enjoy the earth; therefore arise ,O son of Kunti (Arjun), resolved in battle."
Bhagavafgita (II,37)


1. That above is from the Hindu scripture. There are similar verses in scriptures of all religions - although I am not sure about Buddhism.
2. The Holy Quora'n, which is compulsory for all Muslims to follow, requires Muslims to protest when wronged, and evict a trespasser in your abode. The Holy Quora'n states clearly that the greatest Jihad is Jihad e Akbari, which requires one to struggle against the evil within. It is difficult to explain all these in simple terms in a short writing, but I am hoping that I have conveyed the general idea.
3. Islam is an inclusive religion where Shias, Sunnis and other varieties are treated equal. They intermarry, for instance. Islam also accepts that followers of other faiths are free to practice their religion with hindrance. If living in a Dar ul Islam (literally meaning home of peace - where Muslims are in majority), the non-Muslims are protected.
4. The factor here is not religion. The factor is the politician. He has been creating situations throughout history to reap benefit out of it.