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March 29th, 2007   Post 31
CABAL
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Its only surprising if one never suspects the worse in a regime.
No the surprise was how a British Frigate, despite its capabilities, remain passive to an incident like this, just as MontyB pointed out.

And the worst is an actual test of a Nuclear Weapon, not capturing foreign military personnel.
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March 29th, 2007   Post 32
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One acronym for you... ROE, the rules of engagement and the British penchant for following orders to the letter. With no open hostilities would you have the commander of the HMS Cornwall unilaterally engage in direct action and open hostilities? How comfortable is that armchair Cabal?
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March 29th, 2007   Post 33
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Iran doesn´t have the balls.
The hostages are in for a rough time, but Iran don´t have the balls to get into an all in fight over this.
I am almost wishing they´d fire a live missile at the battlegroup though..Just to see how ****ed up they´d get. Assclowns.
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March 29th, 2007   Post 34
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They are demanding a country admit they made a mistake, when that country says it was working within it's rights.

Do you like to admit a mistake?

That is a political demand, they want to do it so they can turn to their people and say see the infidels admit they are stupid...(obviously not in that exact language but I feel I have to say this because some in here can not think outside the box and take everything literally to the "T".)

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Last also not forget they already violated the Geneva conventions.
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March 29th, 2007   Post 35
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Iran is playing with the matches!
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March 29th, 2007   Post 36
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They seriously ****ed up by doing this. If I remember correctly the UK said if we [the US] went to war with Iran we would be on our own. I bet the UK will flip their script real quick after this incident. Its all good though, we are going to keep shooting the little bastards when they are found in Iraq.
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March 29th, 2007   Post 37
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Originally Posted by Donkey
They are demanding a country admit they made a mistake, when that country says it was working within it's rights.

Do you like to admit a mistake?
Nope I don't think anyone likes admitting mistakes but "if" and I am not saying they have made a mistake but if they have then they are going to have to suck it up and admit it.

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Last also not forget they already violated the Geneva conventions.
I am assuming you are talking about showing them on TV well I guess thats technically true but then it is also a double edged sword to a certain extent as it gives several points of reference for the future.
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March 29th, 2007   Post 38
KJ
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I am assuming you are talking about showing them on TV well I guess thats technically true but then it is also a double edged sword to a certain extent as it gives several points of reference for the future.
Who cares..It´s a double whatever. There was a clear breach of the conventions.
Remember way back when the Iraqis where surrendering like flies during the early stages of OIF and one embedded reporter filmed it.
Remember the complaining following that incident?
Why should we treat Iranian breaches of the conventions any different.
Care to explain that to me?

A breach is a breach is a breach..Wheather you are Iranian or US.

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March 29th, 2007   Post 39
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What the terrorist regime of Iran is doing has no difference with what those individuals do in Iraq or Afghanistan urging the foreigners to leave.
 
March 29th, 2007   Post 40
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Hoax of Rogue Elements within the Iranian Regime

Michael Rubin of AEI:
  • The Iranian government's decision to take 15 British marines hostage is an act of war. The decision was both deliberate and central. The Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps is not a rogue element. The regime created it to conduct the operations which the leading clerics did not trust the [regular] army to execute.
And I might add that rogue elements are shot in Iran.

Michael Ledeen of AEI:
  • They took the hostages because that is what they do...
 



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