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May 30th, 2006   Post 11
Rabs
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Say it with me class "There is only one god and his name is Allah. He is great and Mohammed is his messenger."
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May 30th, 2006   Post 12
Ted
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I have serious doubts about the credibility of this! There is no way in hell that the parents of Californian kids would allow this to happen after 9-11. In my humble opinion I reckon it is a mix of things that happened. I too have had lessons in the Quran, the five pillars and can recite the prayer about one God and his profet Mohammed. This was taught during a special project about the Islam and to teach us more about the cultural back grounds of 1/5 of Dutch society. This is a good thing. But it is easily transformed into some monstrosity. Just say; our kids are taught the Quran and you have every republican on his hind legs!

So I don't know what is happening there, but I do think it is transformed into some kind of pissing contest between the various factions and there is a whole lot of misunderstanding and not wanting to understand between them.
 
May 30th, 2006   Post 13
PJ24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted
Just say; our kids are taught the Quran and you have every republican on his hind legs!
Saying that wouldn't/shouldn't just bother Republicans, teaching kids the Q'uran in public schools should make any parent/citizen PO'd.

That said, my post still stands, I need more proof to believe this story and I'm currently Googling on it.
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May 30th, 2006   Post 14
mmarsh
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Gotta agree with PJ here, I need more proof.

Its true that California tends to be left, and even far left (even more than NY). But this is so far off base, I simply cannot believe it on face value. I have a incredibly hard time beleving that any American public school anywhere in the USA would teach Islam if Christianity isnt even allowed.
 
May 30th, 2006   Post 15
Rob Henderson
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Im tryin...I cant find anything that says its true or false...It seems to almost be made up on the spot.....EDIT:I found something! At least for seventh graders....Seems to be false, partly...http://www.snopes.com/religion/islam.htm
That says that it is not true for 7th graders.
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Last edited by C/1Lt Henderson; May 30th, 2006 at 16:08.
 
May 30th, 2006   Post 16
major liability
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This pisses me off both because of what's going on and also because people like this are the reason I can no longer call myself a democrat. This just makes NO SENSE.

Though, I do often yell "ALLAHU AKBAR!" over voice chat in multiplayer games like Hostile Intent and Battlefield 2.
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May 30th, 2006   Post 17
gladius
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THIS S**T IS FOR REAL!

It shows you what kind of biased agenda these ultra-leftwing people are trying to impose on us. People say there is no agenda by the left wing, there is.

Here is more proof for a local newspaper source;



CONTRA COSTA COUNTY
Court clears school of pushing religion with lesson on Islam


A Contra Costa County school was educating seventh-graders about Islam, not indoctrinating them, in role-playing sessions in which students used Muslim names and recited language from prayers, a federal appeals court ruled Thursday.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...AGLFFQENB1.DTL




This is total BS. You can't even mention anything to do with Christianity in California classrooms and yet they allow this.

They say they were just reciting Islamic prayers and role playing. Try to reciting Christian prayers and role play about Christianity and you will get sued.

Here is a quote from the article which is absolutely right;

"What happened in this classroom was clearly an endorsement of religion and indoctrination of children in the Islamic religion, which would never have stood if it were a class on Christianity or Judaism,''

Everybody here in CA (where I live) knows if you can't even do what they did in that class when it comes to Christianity or even Judaism.


 
May 30th, 2006   Post 18
behemoth79
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this disgusts me. absolutely shocking
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May 30th, 2006   Post 19
yingying
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I remember that the familiy of Bulldogg lives in Indiannesia,of cause Indinasia is the largest Islam country in the world.JUdging the earthquakes,hope your family are all ok bulldogg.
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May 30th, 2006   Post 20
mmarsh
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Folks I think you should read this paragraph (from the link Henderson posted), like I suspected its not as it seems

"As part of their social studies curriculum, Grade 7 pupils throughout California do study ancient Muslim cultures and the impact of Islam on world history, but only as one of eleven units that comprise that year's social studies course, not as a special indoctrination into a particular religion as the ASN article presents it".

And for those who dont know ASN, its the public relations department of ASSIST MINISTRIES, a Calfornia based Evangelical group. In other words,this story is coming from a Evanglist Christian Group, not a accredited news service such as the AP.

In other words, this story is highly suspect. Thanks to C/LT.Henderson for the link.

Last edited by mmarsh; May 30th, 2006 at 21:28.
 



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