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August 7th, 2008   Post 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tomtom22
That's just your young opinion and you are entitled to it.
BUT a lot of people agree with his statement.
+1

I totally agree.



Quote:
Originally Posted by mmarsh

8-9. Planning to create mass famine in the world are we? Last I checked most Africans didnt have $140 for a single Bushal. In fact $1 over there was hard enough. When people start to starve, they usually start to fight, which of course creates all sorts of problems. Sounds like a excellant plan to start WWIII. Not to mention that US wheat farmers would go BANKRUPT because nobody would be able to afford to buy it. So it sounds like a plan where everybody loses.
I hate to sound like a heartless bitch, but the fighting (and starving) has never stopped in Africa.
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August 7th, 2008   Post 12
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The person who sent me this is coming up with a bunch of excuses/dodges in regards to a name/source so if the staff wants to delete it due to faulty source I don't have a problem with it. I thought the message was interesting, would like to know who the heck said it myself though.
My assumption until I found out differently, would be that someone wrote this themselves and claimed it came from a democrat. Too bad, I was hoping I could actually (partially) like another democrat besides just Lieberman and Juan Williams.
Sorry for the lack of a source.

I agree with TomTom22 though, that's why I posted.
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August 7th, 2008   Post 13
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I Googled it and this is what came up....

http://ezinearticles.com/?Write-In-C...ent&id=1369434
 
August 7th, 2008   Post 14
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Esperanto... what a pathetic excuse for a "neutral" language. It's so Euro centric that the day that Esperanto is neutral, hamburgers, hot dogs and T-bone steak is originally Chinese.
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August 7th, 2008   Post 15
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Well I found the mysterious Author, and its not a Democrat, he is from Texas however. Hes a write in candidate. I will also add 11-20 points that were mysterious omitted. Bold is my comments

His blog is here.
http://mlf1070.blogspot.com/

(11) The Pledge of Allegiance will be recited every day at school and every day in Congress.

Already ruled as unconstitutional by a Federal judge in 2007. 'Nuff said!

(12) The National Anthem will be played at all appropriate ceremonies, sporting events, outings, etc.

This already done. Maybe this guy does belong in DC, he bent on fixing the things in our society that actually work and ignoring the broken.

(13) The IRS will be abolished and replaced with a 10% national sales tax on all goods and services. The federal government will receive 1%, the States 5%, and the counties and cities 2% each. All property taxes will be abolished. If God can get by on 10% so can the government.

An Idiotic idea guaranteed to increase your taxes. Frankly this is a no-brainer if you think about it, HS Economics 101. Who buys things in America (lower, middle, rich classes)? Answer: The Middle Class. Who will then pay all the taxes? Answer: The Middle Class. Who WON'T pay any taxes at all due to the abolishment of income and property tax? Answer: The rich. So in summery the rich pay nothing, the poor and middle class pay the burden. Sounds just like Feudalism to me, PASS.

(14) All corporations will be abolished and replaced with sole ownership or limited partnership businesses. The owner(s) must be available to customers during normal business hours. Owners will be prosecuted for not submitting collected tax money.

Boy this sounds like Communism doesn't it? I mean I don't like corporations either but abolishing them? Despite the fact the violates every tenent of democracy. How does he plan on doing this? Do you think Boeing and Microsoft are just going to shut down? Or does he plan on Nationaliszing Industry? Hello COMRADE!

(15) All government positions, elective and appointed, will have strict term limits. Public service is a brief civic duty, not a career to enrich the office holder. Salaries will be based of the average income of the people the government worker represents.

If you create limites then you would be obligated in increase the length of the term, otherwise nothing would get done. Not a bad idea, but very tricky to impliment correctly. Easier said then done.

(16) Most foreign military bases will be closed and our troops brought home to guard our borders. America will mind its own business and let other countries do the same. America will no longer "nation build", sponsor "CIA coups", or otherwise interfere with other countries. All U.N. personnel will leave America within 30 days, the U.N. building will be reduced to rubble to disable all the spy equipment housed in it.

Like The way it was before Bush took office? The only exceptions would be UN/NATO mandates because isolationism is as bad as expansionism.

(17) The debt usury system will be abolished. America will return to an honest money system backed by gold and silver. All loans will be for terms of six years or less, including land and houses.

Not sure what he means by "the Usury system", but there was a reason why the WORLD abandoned the Gold standard. It was a leading cause of the Great Depression, due to the fact then when there was a run on the banks there wasnt enough gold to satisfy demand, which meant that the banks utterly collapsed. Its when this system was abandoned that things returned to normal. And that was in 1929, imagine what would happen today.


(1 Politicians will be held personally responsible for all debts they incur. No longer will Americans have their names co-signed to any so-called "national debt".

Sometimes it necessary for a nation to borrow, For example, how did you think we paid for WWII? Sounds like a perfect way to crash the government.


(19) All the national security agencies...the FBI, CIA, ATF, TSA, etc... will be under one department and report daily to the President.

Again this is already done under the DHS. unfortunatly they still prefer NOT to share with each other.


(20) Any person who does not want to live by the values expressed in 1 thru 19 will be deported to a country of their choice. We want everyone to be happy.

"Your're either with us or against us", oh boy just what we need, another Imperial Emporer for a President, because that worked so well before. How about we just deport the author of this idiotic text instead to a deserted Island, there he can boss around his subjects (seagulls, seashells) without annoying the sane part of the country that thinks hes off his rocker.

Pickiedoodust

Africa is a rather big place, there isn't war nor famine everywhere. And what do you suppose would happen if we did cut aid? You don't put out a fire by pouring gasoline on to it.
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Last edited by mmarsh; August 8th, 2008 at 08:32.
 
August 7th, 2008   Post 16
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OK - I have to own up. I tried to stay out of this one, but I must admit - I like idea 15. We could all do with something of this sort. So I am a yes for no.15.
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August 8th, 2008   Post 17
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I think that CIA, FBI, ATF, etc. should be abolished and become one entity.
Same goes with redundant PDs.
It's not so hard to imagine. I believe in China the whole military is in fact the Army. How smart is that?
 
August 8th, 2008   Post 18
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President Reagan wanted a National Law Enforcement Agency instead of the numerous little ones. I am not sure what happened with that but obviously he didn't get what he wanted.
 
August 10th, 2008   Post 19
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It's far too late for this isolationist stuff, unfortunately we live in a globalized world... I do agree with cutting off all foreign aid. Why the hell are we giving hand-outs? I sure as hell don't want my tax money going anywhere but America and our military allies if they really need it. I think we should just leave Africa alone completely. They have to solve their own problems, just as everyone else should. Want democracy? If you're not willing to fight for it yourself you're not deserving of it.

There are tons of things that money could be better spent on in America.
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August 11th, 2008   Post 20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by major liability
It's far too late for this isolationist stuff, unfortunately we live in a globalized world... I do agree with cutting off all foreign aid. Why the hell are we giving hand-outs? I sure as hell don't want my tax money going anywhere but America and our military allies if they really need it. I think we should just leave Africa alone completely. They have to solve their own problems, just as everyone else should. Want democracy? If you're not willing to fight for it yourself you're not deserving of it.

There are tons of things that money could be better spent on in America.
Basically what I think as well.
 



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