Topic: Su-30 vs F15,F16,F18

U.S. Cavalry

FAQ/Rules - Search - Military Photo Gallery

  International Military Forums > Military Discussion Forums > Military Hardware, Gear and Technology
User Name
Password

 
November 11th, 2004   Post 1
Asskicker
Banned
 

Post; Su-30 vs F15,F16,F18


is Su-30 better than F15,F16 or F18

can any military expert give some detail explaination...
 
November 13th, 2004   Post 2
USAFAUX2004
Tribunus Laticlavius
 
 
Gear


I think it is to some extent , but now there is the F-22 and F-35 so not for long
__________________
MICHAEL HATKEVICH, C/Capt, CAP
 
November 13th, 2004   Post 3
Trevor
Tribuni Angusticlavii
 
NOt many people see why the cobra maneuver is very practical, but when you think about it, it's very useful: pitching up suddenly in a banked turn and having the persuing aircraft fly right past.
__________________
WO2 Trevor Perry,
Squadron Deputy Commander
746 Lightning Hawk RCACS
 
November 14th, 2004   Post 4
the_13th_redneck
Fridgeraider (Instructor)
 
 
Gear

Well the problem with the cobra is you bleed energy rapidly and in a dogfight that usually means death.
A bad guy on your six will probably have shot you already if you've had the time to realize you had someone on your six and should do the cobra manouver. It's faster to fire off a sidewinder or let off a burst of cannon fire than to pull off that kind of move.
Not to mention, if you do pull it off, you'll in the sight of the enemy while you do it, while you will lose sight of your enemy until your nose pitches down. Very dangerous.
__________________
Sergeant 13th Redneck (RET)
Republic of Korea Marine Corps
TRESPASSERS WILL BE PROSTITUTED

Next time you travel http://www.epictrip.com
 
November 14th, 2004   Post 5
silent driller
Tribuni Angusticlavii
 
There is a very easy way to defeat the Cobra; don't get close enough to your opponent for him to use it in the first place! As for the better aircraft, I would go with the latter three. They aren't "hyperaerobatic" fighters, but they are very technically advanced and flown by some of the best pilots on earth. A plane is only as good as it's pilot.
 
November 14th, 2004   Post 6
the_13th_redneck
Fridgeraider (Instructor)
 
 
Gear

I would also trust the F-15, F-16 and F-18.

There's a lot of attributes of aircraft that aren't immidiately apparent just by reading raw data about it's G pulling ability.
 
November 15th, 2004   Post 7
Aguy201
Milites Gregarius
 
Well it is better than the F-15, Maybe well yess the F-16, And maybe the F-18, Ive read that Indian SU-30's (sold to them by russia) Beat our F-15's in a wargame pretty bad...
__________________
I didnt stumble 1,000 times, the lightbulb had 1,001 steps.
 
November 16th, 2004   Post 8
Kinection
Immunes
 
The cobra enables the pilot to shoot backwards somewhat. So it *can* be useful, but if you're using it, you're pretty much screwed anyways.
__________________
~Kinection
 
November 16th, 2004   Post 9
the_13th_redneck
Fridgeraider (Instructor)
 
 
Gear

Shoot backwards?
I remember they had an experiment on firing missiles backwards but it was never really reliable.
 
November 17th, 2004   Post 10
egoz
Primus Pilus
 
Seems like kind of a moot point in the age of Beyond Visual Range missile systems. The F15 equipped with that would be able to engage an Su-30 before the pilot even knew what was going on. But I believe the BVRAAM was designed for more current aircraft like the F22, EF2000, F35, etc. I'd still go with the US equipment over Russian.
__________________
Flavius Vegetius Renatus De Rei Militari -
Let him who desires peace prepare for war.

Hard work doesn't guarantee success, but without it you don't have a chance. - Alex Rodriguez (Go Yankees!)