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December 19th, 2005   Post 1
major_sam47
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Post; Stinger Missiles against Supersonic Cruise Missiles


Stinger Missiles against Supersonic Cruise Missiles

I am seeking the opinion of experienced military personnel on some questions I had regarding cruise missile defense methods. I’d greatly appreciate any time you could spare to respond.
  1. How many stingers would be necessary to take out one or several cruise missiles moving between Mach 2.5 and 3.0 ?
  2. How would the stingers have to approach the cruise to successfully destroy it – from behind into its propulsion unit ? Mid-section ? Head-on ?
  3. What are the radar challenges in detecting low altitude cruise missiles ?
  4. Could a low flying cruise missile be detected by a low altitude loitering UAV equipped with suitable stand alone radar sensors, and be able to transmit the cruise missile’s trajectory information to a stinger system on the ground ahead of the incoming cruise missile, to be able to destroy it in time ? If this is viable, how high would the UAV have to fly ? How could a gain in altitude of such a radar sensor equipped UAV enhance its detection abilities ? Would it be viable to arm the UAV with air to air stingers as well ?
  5. What simulation and CAD programs, by name, could be used to adequately test and develop the concept ? What software programs could be used to develop a prototype of the UAV ?
  6. Could it be possible to develop a man-portable version of the UAV and the ground mounted stinger system ? – that is, weight and size effective enough for transport by infantry, without the aid of a vehicle ?
Thank you for your time.
 
December 20th, 2005   Post 2
Rabs
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Correct me if im wrong, but a stinger has a maximum speed of Mach 2.2 so it would be impossible. Assuming there slower moveing i suppose its possible, just very unlikely to work. Im sure someone here can give you a better answer than i can.

Last edited by Rabs; December 20th, 2005 at 00:35.
 
December 20th, 2005   Post 3
Whispering Death
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I don't think stingers can even target cruise missiles?
 
December 20th, 2005   Post 4
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You might notice a complete lack of answers from veterans and those in uniform to a person who has not identified himself and is asking questions of a rather sensitive nature as he is asking about the defensive capabilities of current in use weapons.

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December 20th, 2005   Post 5
major_sam47
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Sorry, I'm Sam, in Toronto, Canada. I'm an American working up here. I don't think these are sensitive questions though. You can get a spec sheet on stingers off of the Raytheon site btw.
 
December 20th, 2005   Post 6
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I've never used a stinger missile system in my entire time of service.
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December 20th, 2005   Post 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by major_sam47
Sorry, I'm Sam, in Toronto, Canada. I'm an American working up here. I don't think these are sensitive questions though. You can get a spec sheet on stingers off of the Raytheon site btw.
Even so there is a difference between spec sheets and real world and the stinger missile classrooms I had to pull guard duty on were off-limits and well guarded for a reason. Even were I in a position to answer your questions I would be ill-disposed to do so.
 
December 20th, 2005   Post 8
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Quote:
The Stinger anti-aircraft missile was designed to hit incoming aircraft better than 60 percent of the time. But if it had been placed in service as originally designed, it would actually have achieved hits only 30 percent of the time when operated by soldiers in combat units. The Stinger’s problems were eventually corrected. The first combat use of the basic STINGER weapon system by U.S. troops occurred with the deployment of 27 STINGER teams in the U.S. airborne assault against Cuban and local forces on the Caribbean island of Grenada on 25 October 1983. The system also proved very effective against first line Soviet combat aircraft in Afghanistan.


http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...nd/stinger.htm
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December 20th, 2005   Post 9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cadet Seaman
I don't know about the stats you quoted but I used to teach Stinger gunnery in US Army ADA school at Ft. Bliss and the accuracy of the Stinger was much higher than 30%
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December 20th, 2005   Post 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DTop
I don't know about the stats you quoted but I used to teach Stinger gunnery in US Army ADA school at Ft. Bliss and the accuracy of the Stinger was much higher than 30%

That was way back in 83'.