I had vietnam vet as a teacher who was involved in intel and interrogations, he thinks we left people behind. Probably Hanoi was keeping them because they didnt expect us to actually leave. After that I think it would have been too much of an embarrassment to be caught with them for the north. Its one of those great mysteries. One of the first things you wanna find out when you turn to dust

They were kept as collateral for the war debt we agreed to pay the North but then never did.

Further, 03, I reread both books by Chalmers Johnson and NO where in either book does he mention anything about bases in Syria, WTF are you going on about mate?

Originally Posted by bulldogg

Further, 03, I reread both books by Chalmers Johnson and NO where in either book does he mention anything about bases in Syria, WTF are you going on about mate?

It's called sarcasm. Perhaps you've heard of it.

Originally Posted by 14Juliet

I had vietnam vet as a teacher who was involved in intel and interrogations, he thinks we left people behind. Probably Hanoi was keeping them because they didnt expect us to actually leave. After that I think it would have been too much of an embarrassment to be caught with them for the north. Its one of those great mysteries. One of the first things you wanna find out when you turn to dust

BFD, you had a teacher who is a VN vet. I know more than a few, in fact I am one. How exactly was your teacher "involved in intel and interrogation" and how does that give him any insight at all into the fate of American POWs? Explain please, I'm curious.

I remember reading about a raid that was going to take into North Vietnam. An American Spy plane over flying an area in North Vietnam photographed a series of letters and numbers trampled out in the grass. These letters and numbers corresponded to an American code armed with this information American troops started to practise for rescue mission, but all this had to be scrubbed when some one went of and told press all about the rescue mission who promptly printed in their newspaper, so the mission had to be cancelled, but it set of a chain of films and books. Not that this did the people left behind any good

At a Firebase Indy I attended with a friend in 1992 one of the hot topics being discussed was one that was being talked about by a vetted Navy seal who did two tours in vietnam. He was later denied his request to return to Vietnam when he was rotated out and couldnt cope. So he enlisted in the Marines and went back. He was captured and subsequesntly rescued by seals of his former team, some of whom were there at the firebase. He and his teammates were telling people of a mission which they received which was to infiltrate a position in border area with Laos and they were to terminate everyone in the 'village'. It turned out to be a camp where POWs were being held and rather than rescue them they were sent to kill them, they didnt, they brought them back alive. I called b******t in quiet to my friend who as an SF medic with four years in Vietnam and he almost hit me. He became livid as he told me that this story was not b******t and that his team had also received similar orders and knew of more people in the SF community who had also confirmed this was not a fluke. I wasn't there. I was never intel or SF but these men who were are quite adamant about their claims. Dtop, you were there, what's your take on it?

Originally Posted by bulldogg

At a Firebase Indy I attended with a friend in 1992 one of the hot topics being discussed was one that was being talked about by a vetted Navy seal who did two tours in vietnam. He was later denied his request to return to Vietnam when he was rotated out and couldnt cope. So he enlisted in the Marines and went back. He was captured and subsequesntly rescued by seals of his former team, some of whom were there at the firebase. He and his teammates were telling people of a mission which they received which was to infiltrate a position in border area with Laos and they were to terminate everyone in the 'village'. It turned out to be a camp where POWs were being held and rather than rescue them they were sent to kill them, they didnt, they brought them back alive. I called bullsh*t in quiet to my friend who as an SF medic with four years in Vietnam and he almost hit me. He became livid as he told me that this story was not bullsh*t and that his team had also received similar orders and knew of more people in the SF community who had also confirmed this was not a fluke. I wasn't there. I was never intel or SF but these men who were are quite adamant about their claims. Dtop, you were there, what's your take on it?

Was this guy a movie script writer as well?

If it this was true, it would have been the biggest scandal of the Vietnam war - not only back in the US but amongst its own troops. Now, if you wanted to waste a whole village and you didn't want anyone bought back, you do it through a process where no-one is going to recognise anybody - and that would be a bomber with a gutful of BF bombs. Afterwards apologise for the accidental transgression over the border.

Maybe we could next chat about the Kennedy assasination or the Apollo landing conspiracy - and they must be true because....someone said so.

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Originally Posted by bulldogg

At a Firebase Indy I attended with a friend in 1992 one of the hot topics being discussed was one that was being talked about by a vetted Navy seal who did two tours in vietnam. He was later denied his request to return to Vietnam when he was rotated out and couldnt cope. So he enlisted in the Marines and went back. He was captured and subsequesntly rescued by seals of his former team, some of whom were there at the firebase. He and his teammates were telling people of a mission which they received which was to infiltrate a position in border area with Laos and they were to terminate everyone in the 'village'. It turned out to be a camp where POWs were being held and rather than rescue them they were sent to kill them, they didnt, they brought them back alive. I called bullsh*t in quiet to my friend who as an SF medic with four years in Vietnam and he almost hit me. He became livid as he told me that this story was not bullsh*t and that his team had also received similar orders and knew of more people in the SF community who had also confirmed this was not a fluke. I wasn't there. I was never intel or SF but these men who were are quite adamant about their claims. Dtop, you were there, what's your take on it?

Yeah, I was there. Coincidentally I guess, our AO was that same border. I would never question someone's claim about a mission I wasn't involved with. But, I would ask WTF possible reason would there have been to do that? I would need many more details about those mission even to express an opinion. Were any more details given?

Originally Posted by bulldogg

At a Firebase Indy I attended with a friend in 1992 one of the hot topics being discussed was one that was being talked about by a vetted Navy seal who did two tours in vietnam. He was later denied his request to return to Vietnam when he was rotated out and couldnt cope. So he enlisted in the Marines and went back. He was captured and subsequesntly rescued by seals of his former team, some of whom were there at the firebase. He and his teammates were telling people of a mission which they received which was to infiltrate a position in border area with Laos and they were to terminate everyone in the 'village'. It turned out to be a camp where POWs were being held and rather than rescue them they were sent to kill them, they didnt, they brought them back alive. I called bullsh*t in quiet to my friend who as an SF medic with four years in Vietnam and he almost hit me. He became livid as he told me that this story was not bullsh*t and that his team had also received similar orders and knew of more people in the SF community who had also confirmed this was not a fluke. I wasn't there. I was never intel or SF but these men who were are quite adamant about their claims. Dtop, you were there, what's your take on it?

Roll your pants up, it's too late to save the shoes.

Sounds like a bi-polar disorder. Better get him back on his meds.