Originally Posted by senojekips

Here's something else to consider regarding the (il)legitimacy of the "Jewish people" as an entity.
Investigations by Israeli Prof. Shlomo Sand, professor of history at Tel Aviv University, have indicated that the "Jewish People" per se are largely a recent (250 years ago) invention of purely nationalistic convenience. He also calls to question many Jewish beliefs about their past including their alleged origins, showing that a great many of these so called "facts" have absolutely no supporting evidence and are in fact far more likely to be completely false.

He sees this work not as an attack on Israel, and to a large degree this is accepted, but there is no denying that if true it chops the legs out from under many Zionist claims.



It's long, (1hr40mins) and the camera work is all over the place at the start, but well worth watching (listening to) for anyone at all interested in Israel and the Jewish people.

Oh,... and, "Happy Passover"

Read this : Shlomo Sand Ridiculed by Historian Simon Schama

Yes - in 2009 he was a man with a book to sell; so he needed the controversy.

Although he was a prof. in Tel Aviv - Israeli history was not his field, and many colleagues and experts have complained that he should stick to his field of European history I understand. So although his book became a best-seller, it was not recognised among his peers as of significance on this issue. I will have to take a look for myself.

Originally Posted by VDKMS

Read this : Shlomo Sand Ridiculed by Historian Simon Schama

Ridiculed maybe, but not in anyway disproved, all Shama does is fall back on the previous man made myths and religious claptrap.

Originally Posted by senojekips

Ridiculed maybe, but not in anyway disproved, all Shama does is fall back on the previous man made myths and religious claptrap.

Then look at DNA studies and his book falls to pieces. Anyway, if we go back far enough in history we all end up somewhere in southern africa.

Originally Posted by VDKMS

Then look at DNA studies and his book falls to pieces. Anyway, if we go back far enough in history we all end up somewhere in southern africa.

If you want to go that way, so does any claim of a "Jewish People"

Originally Posted by VDKMS

Then look at DNA studies and his book falls to pieces. Anyway, if we go back far enough in history we all end up somewhere in southern africa.

If you want to go that way, so does any claim of a "Jewish People"

How much further do you want to go back?...

Originally Posted by senojekips

If you want to go that way, so does any claim of a "Jewish People"

How much further do you want to go back?...

Hominids picking fleas out of each other's hair.

Originally Posted by Yossarian

Hominids picking fleas out of each other's hair.

This type of thinking clearly demonstrates that some people will go to any limit, merely to justify what in any other circumstances would be judged, a present day crime against humanity.

Your assupmtions are running a marathon I suppose.

The only crime here is my facetious comment.

Originally Posted by Yossarian

Your assupmtions are running a marathon I suppose.

The only crime here is my facetious comment.

Well I guess that just shows that if you make a silly comment about a serious subject, the answer you'll receive is rarely going to be what you wanted to hear, bearing in mind that my answer wasn't about your answer, but that of VD. I thought that you were also saying how ridiculous it was.