Topic: So things are going great in Afghanistan?

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May 4th, 2006   Post 1
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Post; So things are going great in Afghanistan?


People should have aread of the following article. It is very disturbing.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/05/03/news/afghan.php

What are your opinions?
 
May 4th, 2006   Post 2
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Slip sliding away...

I wondered with all the effort being poured into Iraq how long it would be before Afghanistan went tits up AGAIN. And we have to worry about Iran now too... this is one huge Charlie Foxtrot.
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May 4th, 2006   Post 3
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This is nothing new. We've seen the major increase in Taliban and Al'Qaeda activities within just the past few months, but it's always like that in the spring/summer. Many are getting back from their trips to Iraq and are now employing the TTPs they've learned there. IEDs are quickly becoming the order of the hour.

As far as the US goes, at this time, US SOF are about the only ones going on the offensive, everyone else is hanging back for the most part. The same goes for the rest of the CF there. Very few within ISAF are going hunting.

The security along the Paki border is another problem, they're filtering in from Pakistan.

We're not using the locals to our advantage anymore, and this is allowing these groups to get a foothold in certain regions.

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May 4th, 2006   Post 4
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Your last point is pretty serious in my opinion.
 
May 4th, 2006   Post 5
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Originally Posted by bulldogg
Your last point is pretty serious in my opinion.
It is, but on the same hand, it is nothing that couldn't be remedied by a few changes, more manpower and the right tools. "Loose foothold" would be a more appropriate term.

SOF teams are getting 75% of the actionable intelligence themselves and conducting 90% of the effective operations, and there's just not enough guys to cover all areas.

 
May 4th, 2006   Post 6
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Having been on the ground yourself would you agree with a claim that the vast majority of Afghani's do not want the Taliban back?
 
May 5th, 2006   Post 7
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Politicians and the news keep saying that reconstruction and freedom are doing great in Afghanistan. While I can swallow the latter, I haven't seen a single picture of video showing some modern stuff being built or sold in Afghanistan. So until I see a shred of evidence, it's all lies to me.
 
May 5th, 2006   Post 8
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Explain something time, there has been a long standing row about not sending in enough troops to Iraq, but I always thought we didnt send enough to Afghanistan as well. I mean we have approximatly 12000 troops including other countries for a country almost the size of California with some of the most inhospitable terrain apart from antartica. Now we are hearing all these reports about the Taliban-al-Qaida re-emerging do you think we need more boot in Afganistan? Personally Im more worry about Afganistan than Iraq.
 
May 8th, 2006   Post 9
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Originally Posted by bulldogg
Having been on the ground yourself would you agree with a claim that the vast majority of Afghani's do not want the Taliban back?
Yeah, I would agree with that. Most aren't too fond of the Pakistanis either. They know the border is open, and they know that Pakistan has their hand in the cookie jar too.

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Explain something time, there has been a long standing row about not sending in enough troops to Iraq, but I always thought we didnt send enough to Afghanistan as well. I mean we have approximatly 12000 troops including other countries for a country almost the size of California with some of the most inhospitable terrain apart from antartica. Now we are hearing all these reports about the Taliban-al-Qaida re-emerging do you think we need more boot in Afganistan? Personally Im more worry about Afganistan than Iraq.
I don't think the problem was not sending enough troops to Afghanistan, it was removing too many SOF assets at one time. It is difficult to manage Afghanistan with conventional forces, not because light infantry can't do the job, but because they're bogged down with a lot of red tape and micromanaging from their commands.

As for if we need more boots on the ground now, definitely. Things aren't horrible in Afghanistan right now, but they have the potential to spiral downward unless we can stomp the little fires as they are lit. As it stands, we just don't have enough guys to do that right now.
 
May 8th, 2006   Post 10
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I think they, the Taliban Redux, smell this too bruv.