Originally Posted by 03USMC

Are all the stocks for the M40A3 being manufactured by Mcmillain now?

Actually I heard somewhere that McMillan did win the contract for the M40A3.

Originally Posted by egoz

The problem with sub-sonic ammunition is the reduced velocity and ineffectiveness at at long range. Even worst is that you can hear the bullet coming. If you miss the first time they'll easily be able to pick you up.

Exactly. But when you work in a dense forest what do you do. "Hear the bullet coming"? You mean the target will duck?

i wasn't suggesting that you could dodge a subsonic bullet. you can hear a subsonic bullet coming and going and therefor figure out where the shooter is. combine that with the close distance you have to shoot at and you'll be in trouble. it makes it that much easier to find out where the shot came from than shooting with a full load. which voids the point of having a suppressor in the first place. if you are going to use a suppressor there are plenty out there that will reduce all target indicators without the use of subsonic ammunition.

Hmmm

Large Caliber = http://www.world.guns.ru/sniper/sn02-e.htm
Barrett M-82

Standard Caliber = http://www.world.guns.ru/sniper/sn63-e.htm
Cheytac Intervention

The people that have been saying that the SVD and the M82A1 are not sniper rifles are absolutely correct. The SVD is a weapon that increases the basic infantry squad's effective range. It is not a sniper weapon due to its 2-3 MOA accuracy, which is fine for its purpose, but not good enough for a sniper to put his faith into a rifle that might miss on the first shot due to a technical problem at extreme range in a dire situation. The problem with the M82A1 is that equipped it weighs over 40 pounds. Don't forget that snipers spend a lot of time as FOs (watching not shooting) and they need a weapon that is capable of both. Dragging 40 pounds in your hands and not even firing is a huge waste of effort and the "best" sniper rifle needs to be able to do both.

With that I present the two best rifles. I say two because one is a military weapon and the other is a hunting weapon. The best rifle that isn't currently employed by a military is the HS-Precision Lightweight Hunter chambered in .300 WM. It weighs in at a mere 5.5 pounds and has a guaranteed MOA of 1 or less. The best military rifle is the M24 SWS. I believe this because of the weight, accuracy, and quality that it presents. The stock is made by the same HS-Precision and is adjustable for Length Of Pull. The action is the venerable Remington 700. Also 1 MOA is very good especially since it is proven with M118 ammo (which isn't what I would call match ammo).

My favorite sniper rifle, well Sako makes good job in that area so its the TRG-41/42 as for larger calibers I'd go for the Barret rifles.

Originally Posted by egoz

I don't understand. The sniper team knew who they were shooting at. I'm sure they had a high powered scope and spotting scope and ID'd the target before taking shots at it.

The problem with sub-sonic ammunition is the reduced velocity and ineffectiveness at at long range. Even worst is that you can hear the bullet coming. If you miss the first time they'll easily be able to pick you up.

Sub-sonic rounds are manufactured by Lapua but not widely used by finnish military and standard sniper rifles issued for regular troops Valmet M85 and Sako TRG42 don't have silencers. A lot of field tests are done anyway and some sub-sonic ammunition is storaged by military but not commonly issued for regular troops. About sub-sonic in special force use i don't know about.

Most users and buyers of sub-sonic ammunition are common private people using sub-sonic ammunition usually in hunting and range shooting and reservists hobbying sniper shooting.

I know this is not exactly about sniper rifle but what can anyone tell me about Carlos Hathcock? Please excuse rank as Im not sure what his rank was. All I know was that he was one of the top USMC snipers.

actually vitaly, M82AI fits the definition of a sniper rifle and so does the SVD, now you may think they are crappy, but technically they are still sniper rifles, and since almost none of you know what that is i will tell you.

sniper rifle

n : an extremely powerful rifle developed for the military; capable of destroying light armored vehicles and aircraft more than a mile away


now i think that the M82A1 fits that description, but then again what does a dictionary actually know.

on another note, the Cheytac intervention is on e badass gun, i need to get myself one of those

actually. most of the .50 sniper rifles are actually anti material rifles, not anti pers rifles... They can be used for both of course. But thanks for the sarcastic remark Jason Bourne, I'm sure all the veterans and soldiers appreciate it.