About Sniper rifles Page 6
|December 4th, 2004||#52|
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We have 2 sniper rifles in the Canadian Forces now... The first older one being the C3 7.62mm Parker Hale (British made) with a Mouser action and of course the Macmillan Tac 50... The data on the longest kill is correct... And now we are looking for a medium range sniper rifle... It is still in the testing stage but I think the are going to go with the .338... FN in my opinion makes one of the best sniper rifles right now, but of course technology is always changing.... I'm trying to find out where the contract to make them came from.... I think they are from Phoenix though... Strange because lately we have gotten away from buying kit from other nations...
Oh yeah: in my opinion the Dragunov is more of a good battle rifle than an actual sniper rifle... It's range isn't that great, but it would be a good weapon for a designated marksman. For Real sniping I think you would need something else
|December 5th, 2004||#53|
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There are a lot of new excellent SWS's out there. But they all depend on what you want to do. The 308 is a great round, very versetile out to 800m (the Marines claim 1000m, but that's REALLY pushing it). For long range accuracy and velocity you need a 338 Lapua or better. Well actually, the 300WSM/Win Mag will do the work too. I know the M40 SWS had a long action built because they wanted to be able to accomidate the possible change to a 300WSM instead of using the 308 to get those extra long shots in.
But let's not forget that before all of this amazing balalistics technology and optics technology came out. There were guys with 6x scopes killing people at amazing ranges. Gunny Hathcock used to hold the record for the longest kill at 2250m with a .50 BMG, and that was back in Vietnam. It was recently broken in Afgahnistan though by a Canadian/American sniper team. They got a kill at 2430m with a .50 cal (American version).
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|December 7th, 2004||#54|
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A "sniper" rifle is a weapon used by a "sniper". Killing a man at 2400 meters - do you know who you are killing?
The Finns had a different approach in the eighties. They developed a Sako bolt rifle with an integrated silencer in the barrel. To that they matched a sub-sonic 7.62 x 51 cartridge. That's a sniper! For a Finn, anyway!
Problem with most sniper rifles is that they are usually developed by theorists shooting mainly at the range.
|December 7th, 2004||#55|
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|December 7th, 2004||#56|
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Actually the USMC Sniper System was designed with the suggestions and input of USMC Scout/Snipers.
Sgt. Rafael Peralta ,United States Marine Corps
Company A, 1st Bn, 3rd Marine Regt, 3rd Marine Divison
We will never forget your valor and sacrifice.
Semper Fi !
|December 7th, 2004||#57|
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|December 8th, 2004||#58|
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\"U.S. Marines are about the most peculiar breed of human beings I have ever known. They treat their service as if it was some kind of cult, plastering their emblem on almost everythng they own, making themselves up to look like insane fanatics...., which I have come to the conclusion they are!\"
-- An Anonymous Canadian Citizen
|December 8th, 2004||#60|
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"In my opnion has to the Russian dragunov. It's small and compact but packs a big punch."
Dragunov's barrel's quality is very various that causes different accuracies between average and shot gun, but Dragunov would be much better if the barrel would be changed to a high quality one with tight tolerances.
And to answer the original question: Depends on ranges to fire at. For long ranges +600m i like our SAKO TRG-42 but for shorter ranges (usually available) 100-400m i would take a 7.62x51 semi auto rifle with an accurate barrel. FN-FAL, G3 or FAL's austrian copy Stg58 equiped with a sniper scope and bipod. A good scope would be Zeiss Diavari, at least 6x.
Semi auto for short ranges because with larger magazine capacity and rate of fire it is much better than bolt action rifles when presents a threat to get close contact with enemy and semi auto's worse accuracy doesn't matter at shorter ranges.