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|August 1st, 2012||#21|
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We don't whine, we leave that to the kiwi's. Isn't whining your national sport?
Adversus solem ne loquitor
Last edited by BritinAfrica; August 1st, 2012 at 08:12..
|August 1st, 2012||#22|
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Wow, how many enemy I have!? If you think target the function or the inhabitants of the bunker is a way because you can’t target the structure, so we have a lot of ways to deal with your stealth planes or your other advanced weapons. As well as that we are completely ready for worst conditions and we have suitable plan for any scenario.
Well, as I can understand from your posts you are too confident to your politicians and militaries decisions. So it is better to have a look to their decisions results in ME.
In 2006 Israel-Hezbollah, Israel wanted to destroy Hezbollah military power in one day but what happened? If you want to know, read winograd commission report.
11/9 gave a good excuse to attack to Iraq to have another puppet in the region. WMD excuse was just for demagoguery. Well what was the result?
In Arab spring west lost some of their friends because they couldn’t support them. On the other hand Iran is increasing her influence in the region. For example now we have good plans for Yemen.
They attack to Afghanistan for 11/9 but they couldn’t destroy Al-Qaeda network and I think Al-Qaeda is stronger than before.
Aren’t these examples enough?
Last edited by hamidreza; August 1st, 2012 at 10:44..
|August 1st, 2012||#23|
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You can never be sure of the things you don't know. Your opponent may have something up their sleeve that you didn't see coming.
|August 1st, 2012||#25|
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A) That you were superior.
B) That you were right.
Unfortunately in this case you are neither and your attack on the original poster is the one thing in this thread that needs correction.
To back this up compare the two following quotes.
Thanks for asking.
The reality is that at this point we don't know what counter measures Iran has come up with who knows maybe they have found a miracle concrete or maybe they haven't.
We are more often treacherous through weakness than through calculation. ~Francois De La Rochefoucauld
Last edited by MontyB; August 1st, 2012 at 20:55..
|August 2nd, 2012||#26|
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This is my take on this issue. What I see is two sides of this...
Iran- this is one country with a long history and WAS a superpower in ancient times. Unfortunately, some people tends to forget that that was in the past... Iran has long been known to proclaim many things but thats what it does- proclaim. Yup, it does produce all those things that it claim, like planes and ships and vehicles, but if you look closely, those are old technologies rehashed. They clam to have made improvements, but that is what they claimed, and it remains as that. To add further to the complication, they have these theologians who thinks that by saying verses from the Holy Book, things will be done according to their desire...
West (I will focus on the US for this)- Many people seems to have the idea that becasue Americans are chaotic in their politics, therefore they lack willpower to carry out military activities against their adversaries. Many people like to quote Vietnam War as a failure on the American military- I will tell you now, they did not lose that war from a military standpoint. They did what they had to do, and they did exactly that. The first Gulf war showed what they really can do, and I suspect that is only a portion of what they are really capable of.
Hamid, there is an old saying- there is more than one way to skin a cat. Believe me, that saying is indeed true. You can take down an advesary in many ways you can imagine- the question is simple- what are you prepared to do to achieve that?
In today's concept of defence, the static defence is no longer a viable option. As the Americans would say, you can run, but you can't hide...
|August 2nd, 2012||#27|
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And we all know how America likes to sell things.
This is getting thrown out of a bar in front of your drinking buddies by a huge bouncer.
Reason being is that war entails more than the military of any given soceity, especially today.
Buying power in modern war against a uniformed adversary is king, not necessarly having the best stuff, but the money to buy the batteries.
Patience by adversaries is the biggest threat to the U.S., not direct action,
Which Iran seems to have no concept of.
Asymetrical warefare is another volume of another series however.
An you cun take dat to that char bank.
Thats what they are unknowingly shooting at... Once again, Amatuers.
Gain their support and wait for America's replacement as the world's ecnomic leader.
Once that happens you use your new freindships to help achieve by finacince a new future where Iran is on the road to be the leading player in the Middle East.
If they had the say and what on ecnomic flows in this region than I garuntee you that other players in the region would come to them for economic matters. Which is a statement in itself.
On a larger scale, this is how the U.S. undercut the Soviet Union.
America saw all those Soviet tanks and planes, knew the numbers, and knew that victory would mean the end of civilization.
Administrations from Truman onward went strait to work, because the U.S. knew time was on it's side.
So what did they do? Carefully under cut, and buy out economic channels for their economy and eventually pushed the ecnomically isolated USSR into internal turmoil.
Then almost over night, all those T 72s, and BMPs, and millions of Soviet Soldiers over the wall became irrelevant.
America's "problem" was solved, without firing a single round over the wall.
China seems to be understanding this for it's goals in East Asia.
You'd think Iran would learn about this method sooner or later as well.
Cause America can spend a whole lot, but obviously this can't go on forever.
And obviously force will become a very attractive option when they instead build nuclear facilities and launch submarines in Iran. Which both are A.K.A "military targets". All that is needed afterwards is "justification".
"This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience"- Dwight D. Eisenhower , Jan 17,1961.
Last edited by Yossarian; August 2nd, 2012 at 02:33..
|August 2nd, 2012||#29|
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Yes I am proud of serving in the RAF, I am very proud of my cap badge. By the way, what cap badge do you have to be proud of?
"My attack" (your words not mine)on hamidreza the man is a trouble maker and needs to be treated as such. However, I did not insult his country OR nationality, neither did I infer that ALL Iranians are moronic pillocks.
Just to remind you and I quote
As for NZ being ranked number one for the last 10 years in Rugby. Who gives a toss? I don't. Yes we invented rugby, we also invented a lot of other sports we are not particularly good at. So what? Do I care, am I heartbroken, will I lose sleep over it? Nope, quite honestly I couldn't care less.
You really don't like being proved wrong and being corrected Monty, isn't that one of your national traits? Just asking, not implying anything of course.
Oh by the way, did you look up what "Tongue in cheek means?"
Keep taking the tablets, I hope you get well soon.
Last edited by BritinAfrica; August 2nd, 2012 at 08:08..
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