Originally Posted by JSLQ

My recruiter told me he had a job lined up that somebody didn't take but I would have to wait until the active duty contract for it to be listed. I wasn't sure about that so I didn't sign into the DEP since the contract says in capitals, "NO MATTER WHAT YOUR RECRUITER TOLD YOU YOU ARE NOT GAURANTEED ANY JOB..ect). I want to make sure I end up with a job where I can take classes during my off hours and earn my degree so I can apply to be a pilot.

What your recruiter told you is good to go.

Here's how picking a job works, the liaison will run your list of AFSCs through the computer and tell you if any slots are available for what you want. If there are, you can sign the contract that day and get your EAD (Entering Active Duty) date. If what you want doesn't have slots you'll sign a contract putting you into the DEP and you'll wait for job drops (it could take a month or over a year). Job drops happen on the first and third Friday of every month, if I remember right.

Give your recruiter a list of what jobs you want, and he'll call you when one on the list opens up. IF for some reason you refuse one of the jobs you've listed, you can ask to be discharged from the DEP (yup, that's right). BUT, the Air Force won't have much to do with you after that.

Look closely at the jobs, make a list of what you want to do and give it to the recruiter. Sign into the DEP and wait for one of those jobs to drop.

I would also suggest that you don't pick a job you won't enjoy. It is nearly impossible to become a pilot on the USAF, and with our recent cut-backs on O's it's going to get even harder. I'm not trying to disauded you, just make sure you've got a plan B, and a plan C. It is the military, after all.

Originally Posted by PJ24

What your recruiter told you is good to go.

Here's how picking a job works, the liaison will run your list of AFSCs through the computer and tell you if any slots are available for what you want. If there are, you can sign the contract that day and get your EAD (Entering Active Duty) date. If what you want doesn't have slots you'll sign a contract putting you into the DEP and you'll wait for job drops (it could take a month or over a year). Job drops happen on the first and third Friday of every month, if I remember right.

Give your recruiter a list of what jobs you want, and he'll call you when one on the list opens up. IF for some reason you refuse one of the jobs you've listed, you can ask to be discharged from the DEP (yup, that's right). BUT, the Air Force won't have much to do with you after that.

Look closely at the jobs, make a list of what you want to do and give it to the recruiter. Sign into the DEP and wait for one of those jobs to drop.

I would also suggest that you don't pick a job you won't enjoy. It is nearly impossible to become a pilot on the USAF, and with our recent cut-backs on O's it's going to get even harder. I'm not trying to disauded you, just make sure you've got a plan B, and a plan C. It is the military, after all.

Thank you for this information. Do you know why it is so hard to become a pilot in the USAF? My plan B is to apply to be a Navy Pilot if the AF will not accept my application once I have earned my B.S.

edit: I have been told that the job counsellors at MEPS have the authority to reduce the number of job preferences prospective recruits are allowed to have. Do you know if this is true?

Yeah, umm, MEPS and recruiters are exactly on speaking terms, you'll understand once you head up to MEPS, it's an experience like no other. Never before had I listened to so much brown nosing while simultaneously being herded like cattle.

I understand very little to nothing in this world. It is a terrrible symptom of (in freudian terms) 'having an ego'.

edit: sorry, it is a pet peeve of mine to avoid words starting with the prefix 'un'. To me 'un' prefixes elucidate negativity As the word in Old English actually means 'stand under' I specifically do not intend to stand under anything but a bridge or a highway since I (possibly together with yourself) perceive my inclusion in reality to be Aristotlian sound. Although I do not 'understand' much, I do 'realize' things.



God damn! lol - this 4 1/2 year private liberal arts school experience is going to get me in a lotta trouble while walking the poetic trail of poverty. :/

I can just imagine it now, living <i>The American Dream</i> - an overglorified rendition of mannorialism hidden in Machiavellian illusion. Signing my life away to a pseudo socialist subsystem in a larger capitalistic economy; to become a serf, yet again, whilst going through an emotional and intellectual quandary. Phrases like "Sir yes Sir" I repeat to Low Sirs(say Low Sir 10 times really fast!); phrases, like chaff, that have earned their place as biproducts of necessary evils to achieve a better good.

If only I would have paid attention to my professors and not squandered my educational opportunities in deplorable indecent explorations of knowledge instead of sticking to the degree at hand. If only I would have shown up to my boring Managment classes instead of secretly studying tomes of History and Philosophy.

May God Damn the intellectuals in this world to a very slow painful sinking into the depth of stupid people.

For I am determined to death that I will be useless. Why would I allow someone to 'use' me and be 'useful'. I refuse upper middle class status, and only accept it as maybe a biproduct of learning. How can I enjoy my motorvehicle when I know it is made solely of carbon plastics that were once decomposing living things or fuel that is the refined accumulation of a million years of sewage.

So, maybe I will be useful as cannon fodder to shoot at Iraquees. But most likely my body will not fulfill its usefullness of killing an Iraqee on a fall - it will most likely be as disappointing as evolution, existentialism, and pragmatism.

Originally Posted by JSLQ

So, maybe I will be useful as cannon fodder to shoot at Iraquees. But most likely my body will not fulfill its usefullness of killing an Iraqee on a fall - it will most likely be as disappointing as evolution, existentialism, and pragmatism.

Yes, we lowly plebes are nothing more than cannon fodder, oh I so hope you will lower yourself to join us.


Your entire previous post was written just to "see" yourself "talk."

You are a pseudo intellectual of the highest order, and frankly, I find that sad and I really do feel sorry for you.

Originally Posted by PJ24

Yes, we lowly plebes are nothing more than cannon fodder, oh I so hope you will lower yourself to join us.


Your entire previous post was written just to "see" yourself "talk."

You are a pseudo intellectual of the highest order, and frankly, I find that sad and I really do feel sorry for you.

It was a satire..

Originally Posted by JSLQ

It was a satire..

Of course it was.

You're going to have to grow up and stop the pretension if you hope to survive in the military or in any social circle outside of acedamia.

Anyone can have an ego, humility is something far more impressive.

Originally Posted by PJ24

Of course it was.

You're going to have to grow up and stop the pretension if you hope to survive in the military or in any social circle outside of acedamia.

Anyone can have an ego, humility is something far more impressive.

we're obviously speaking different languages so i'm just going to clam it before it gets out of hand

edit: btw it's *Academia

Originally Posted by JSLQ

we're obviously speaking a different language so i'm just going to clam it before it gets out of hand

No, we aren't.

What a surprise.