About Sights or Point Shooting in CQB Situations Page 5
|March 3rd, 2010||#41|
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As to the index finger method, I think it's fair to say that the US Military's suppression of the finger pointing method from 1912 - 1941 due to the design fault of the 1911, kept it from becoming popular.
That's logical as the 1911 was the standard issue sidearm for US forces for a total of about 70 years. And even the very unbright probably can get "the message" when told to not do something for 30 to 70 years.
As to why a modest modification was not made to the 1911 to fix the design fault, I don't have a clue except to think that the Sight Only crowd held sway and the traditional way was their way.
Remember that in days of old people like Giodana Bruno was burned at the stake, and Galileo was sentenced to life under house arrest for going against the dogma - that the sun revolved around the earth. And how about the Salem witch trials.
Also, having been through boot camp long long ago, I don't think many privates would object to what they were being told to do by their NCO's.
In Shanghia, Fairbairn and Sykes had good success with their target focus method which was built upon by Applegate in WWII.
The Applegates method was even taught at the FBI Academy for a few years after WWII, until a new "boss" came around. Then it was pushed aside as the "MT" came into being and became the cats meow.
Since that time most all police were and still are trained to use the sights for shooting.
In the 1970's, the NYPD SOP 9 study of some 6,000 + police combat cases, and studies since then have established that: If you are going to be shot and/or killed there is a 90% chance that it will be at less than 15 feet.
In most all cases in the SOP 9 study, the sights were not used.
And Officers shot with one hand with few exceptions.
The MISS rate was 80% +/-
For more details see:
Or check out the RAND corporation study of the NYPD which was funded by the NYPD: http://www.pointshooting.com/1arand.htm
IMHO, a miss rate of 80+% is a very very bad joke.
And to not accept the truth and do something about it, such as making a study of shooting methods to determine factually what does and does not work in CQB, and then share that info with the law abiding gun owning public, is morally wrong on the part of "the Government", gun makers, and trainers.
At least the NRA has recognized the facts, and supprots the use of Point Shooting for CQ self defense. http://www.pointshooting.com/1anra.htm
So, as I said at the start, NO things have not evolved or gotten better. If anything, since the 1940's they are worse.
You don't have to like what is, but it is what it is.
Hopefully discussions such as this one, will lead to better understanding of what the situation is, and to improvments down the road.
I'm an optomist.
Last edited by 5shot; March 3rd, 2010 at 23:29..
|March 7th, 2010||#43|
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there is a conspiracy against sighted weapons? who would of thought...
The oath to serve my country as a soldier did not include a contract for the normal luxuries and comfort enjoyed within our society. On the contrary it implied hardship, loyalty and devotion to duty regardless of rank.
|March 8th, 2010||#44|
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So is the Air Force.
Sgt. Rafael Peralta ,United States Marine Corps
Company A, 1st Bn, 3rd Marine Regt, 3rd Marine Divison
We will never forget your valor and sacrifice.
Semper Fi !
|May 12th, 2010||#48|
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Put together a simple video about the slide stop pin problem.
If you plan to use a 1911 for self defense, you may want to take a look at it. You can file it under: you can take a horse to water, but you can't make em drink.
Also, I just updated my page of WW II pics and fly-by videos.
For those interest in such, here's the link: http://www.pointshooting.com/1aflyby.htm
And here's a nice group pic:
|June 17th, 2010||#49|
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Hi again folk. I didn't expect th video on the1911 to be received with smiles, but I thiink it is best to deal with what is.
Here's a link to an article on the fatal flaw of the 1911: http://www.pointshooting.com/police1.htm
And to add a bit more fuel to the fire:
Here's a new U-Tube Video: EZ Point Shooting with a pistol.
And here's a link to a very brief article about the method that employs our natural ability to point at objects, and which the US Army says can be used to engage targets rapidly and accurately.
If you are satisfied with your ability to Point Shoot, the information may not be for you, but it might help others in getting comfortable with Point Shooting.
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