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June 20th, 2006   Post 101
Rob Henderson
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I tried to say to reduce it...my next point was to be that the money used from cut back military spending could be filtered to much more needed things HERE. Say we dont give the starving people of the world a penny of our money, then we filter it to the education system, internal improvements, better roads, cheaper gas, more housing for our own poor...Numerous things could be done with that money, more important than the points Ace listed above...and Ace..Ill just say this to number 9and . Both apply here.
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June 20th, 2006   Post 102
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...and Ace..Ill just say this to number 9and . Both apply here.

I have the US embassie just down the street from my house, maybe i`ll just go lock my door now...
 
June 20th, 2006   Post 103
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Or move to Canada.
 
June 20th, 2006   Post 104
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You're right, I don't know every single thing thats being bought with that money.I suppose it's my concience telling me that it's right to save starving people...Damn the human guilt.
You are an arogant little brat!

How can you claim to be in a military prep organization and say that you would sacrifice national security to feed the world? The two concepts are not linked in any way or form.

If your conscience is telling you to save starving people I suggest that you join the Peace Corps and not the U.S. Military!
 
June 20th, 2006   Post 105
Rob Henderson
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I said we could cut back on it. I did not say to blow our whole military funding, I simply said we could lower the budget. We don't need all those billions upon trillions of dollars spent on, as Ace said, "huge military only projects with no meaning."Just because of my military plans doesn't mean I can't say we could cut back on our spending...Sheesh.


EDIT: Its spelt arrogant...just thought you ought to know.

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June 20th, 2006   Post 106
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You are an arogant little brat!

How can you claim to be in a military prep organization and say that you would sacrifice national security to feed the world?
Are you afraid of life? Do you think someone is comming to get you and your family?? Well if someone comes its not foreign enemies (who?), its your neighbour on drugs or something. Why not use some of the money helping him with food, education, social services, healthcare and such....
Did you see how (partial of) society in New Orleans broke down during katrina... some of those people need help... for many years to come.

The biggest threat to the american life is (my opinion)
1. The lack of freedom (security control in friggin museums and such, unbeliveable)
2. Drugs
3. Too much weapons (to liberal legeslation)
4. lack of educated people (maybe thats the reason you need the drugs so they wont riot...?)
5. The rise of a class-society
6. The collapse of your economy
 
June 20th, 2006   Post 107
Rob Henderson
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I agree.
 
June 20th, 2006   Post 108
Rabs
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I have (whitout giving it too much evaluation) some suggestions of what US can do to reduce cost, and put some were its needed (like force protection materials, non-lethal weaponry, armed vehicles etc)
I cant think of a better force protection strategy then to kill all the bad guys before they can kill you.

Non-lethal is a civilian venture police forces need that, not the military. (maybe the MPs)

I dont even know what you mean by armed vechiles, our vechiles are armed?

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1. 1 multirolle aircraft (scrap the rest) this has allready been initiated with JSF. About friggin time
No damit, we need an air to air fighter like the F-22 yes its expensive and yes its quite literally worth its weight in gold. I dont wanna be the guy that has to tell pilots they have to go up and fight in planes that arent quite as good as they could be. Youll have trouble finding a pilot that doesnt want to go up in the best aircraft his country can produce.

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3. Reduce numbers of aircraft carriers (you do realize that one air craft carrier is almost the same size regarding the number of airplanes with most of you allies total air-force....)
I think we are drawing back our carriers by 2 down to 11. Carriers are the ultimate form of force projection and what you just said is right they do have more capable air forces on board than most of our allys, thats why 5 of them and their escort ships sitting off your coast are big deterent to do soemthing stupid.

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6. Retreat all US army standing forces from Germany
Why? Its easier to deply with forces that are already closure to the scene.

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7. Reduce ambitions in air and speace programs. Nobody can come close to the level you are today anyway.
Oh hell no, lets weaponize the hell out of space so no one else can full-spectrem dominance baby.

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10. Reduce (and reduce ALOT) number of bases on US soil.
Again, I agree fewer bases are easier to protect and you have more assets in one place and therefore easier to move. Problem with that is its not very popular cause bases provides lots of jobs.

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8. Reduce the national guard. Who do you are afraid of will march over your borders.... (Keep enough to controll your own citizens in case of riots and natural disasters etc)
Well patrolling the borders and dealing with more frequent natural disasters and 2 conflics is a toll on the national guard, if anything they need to be expanded.

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11. Stop wasting money on huge "military only projects" with no meaning. If you keep the US military as its is today you will still be number one in the world for the next 20-30 years...
Like what?

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The biggest threat to the american life is (my opinion)
1. The lack of freedom (security control in friggin museums and such, unbeliveable)
2. Drugs
3. Too much weapons (to liberal legeslation)
4. lack of educated people (maybe thats the reason you need the drugs so they wont riot...?)
5. The rise of a class-society
6. The collapse of your economy
1. We have more freedom than any other country on earth.
2. I agree
3. Dont want to get into it.
4. We need a working class and obviously were not too stupid considering the amount of patents we put out each year.
5. Um I think thats a good thing, its been proven tiem and tiem again if you work hard enough you can move up. We need a working class.
6. Doesnt appear to be happening anytime soon.
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June 20th, 2006   Post 109
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1. We have more freedom than any other country on earth.
Hmm
I find you somewhat narrowminded and to sertain degree childish so I wont take you serious. I dont think you do either.

But I quoting on of your responses with the following comment.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you really crack me up!!!! Wait a minute I just gotta lay down on the floor.... hahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahaha

puh, that really trained my stomac muscles.... Thanks.
 
June 20th, 2006   Post 110
Rob Henderson
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Uhh Ace...he agreed with some of your points...Guess you find em funny to eh?