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November 30th, 2007   Post 11
the_13th_redneck
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I don't think any reasonable person would debate that.
There are many different kinds of ethnic groups, religions, etc. but it's only Islam that's making it hard for everyone else. We have to stop tolerating those who do not tolerate and we have to stop making people who are not a problem pay for the things that these extremist Muslims do.
Basically, doing a bomb search on a guy from Hong Kong is generally a waste of your time.
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November 30th, 2007   Post 12
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Because we are so concerned about the activities of the mosques here, we now are to have a great scheme - we are getting moslems to check them out regularly for us! You really have to ask - instead of what? What were they doing before?
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December 1st, 2007   Post 13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
I don't think any reasonable person would debate that.
There are many different kinds of ethnic groups, religions, etc. but it's only Islam that's making it hard for everyone else. We have to stop tolerating those who do not tolerate and we have to stop making people who are not a problem pay for the things that these extremist Muslims do.
Basically, doing a bomb search on a guy from Hong Kong is generally a waste of your time.
To be honest I am starting to think we are looking at the wrong people, most "western" countries already have laws about inciting violence and racial hatred etc. and I think its time we looked into why the authorities are not enforcing these laws.

As I see it if someone wants to sit in the church/mosque and preach about things contrary to the laws of the country they are in they should be arrested and either jailed or shipped back to where they come from.

Outside that I agree with both Doody and 03USMC's comments on this, I don't care what the Saudis at home, thats for them to sort out, if they are happy having bits of anatomy chopped off or wearing pup tents with eye slits then more power to them if not then they need to do something about it.
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December 1st, 2007   Post 14
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Whatever the position taken on what is right and wrong in the world, this is not good press for any country trying to drag a supposed ally into this century as far as human rights are concerned. This type of inhumanity is hitting the press more every day, unfortunately, while the USA is trying to maintain relations with the KSA.

Global position of atrocities against other human beings is not important, it's still animalistic to punish an innocent victim of a crime because of their gender, or any other reason for that matter. Sorry, but I just can't slide that far down the evolutionary ladder to condone such behavior for any reason.
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December 1st, 2007   Post 15
Del Boy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyB
As I see it if someone wants to sit in the church/mosque and preach about things contrary to the laws of the country they are in they should be arrested and either jailed or shipped back to where they come from.

Outside that I agree with both Doody and 03USMC's comments on this, I don't care what the Saudis at home, thats for them to sort out, if they are happy having bits of anatomy chopped off or wearing pup tents with eye slits then more power to them if not then they need to do something about it.

Absolutely. Just plain ol' commonsense, ain't it.

As it happens, my views re the 'evolutionary ladder' match those of Missileer, but if they are not in my face I can live with it in practice if not in principle.

Last edited by Del Boy; December 1st, 2007 at 22:16.
 
December 3rd, 2007   Post 16
the_13th_redneck
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Missileer
Whatever the position taken on what is right and wrong in the world, this is not good press for any country trying to drag a supposed ally into this century as far as human rights are concerned. This type of inhumanity is hitting the press more every day, unfortunately, while the USA is trying to maintain relations with the KSA.

Global position of atrocities against other human beings is not important, it's still animalistic to punish an innocent victim of a crime because of their gender, or any other reason for that matter. Sorry, but I just can't slide that far down the evolutionary ladder to condone such behavior for any reason.
If they have issues with it, they can apply for asylum.

And I gotta go with Monty here. I think since being loud has worked so well for these Muslims it is our turn to get loud. But of course, we'll be branded as racists if we do and probably get shot in the middle of the street during broad daylight if we do. That's the way that activist, a descendant of Vincent Van Gogh died. Made a movie about the rights of women in Islamic countries and got shot to death by a Moroccan for it.
Maybe we ought to start shooting people preaching against our own countries and our own societies. Give them a taste of their own damn medicine.

Last edited by the_13th_redneck; December 3rd, 2007 at 03:32.
 



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