CH3TN!K
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Me being an ethnic Serb, have been waiting for almost a decade now since it was first announced that Serbia would be planning on buying new aircraft to replace their fleet of MiG-21bis's that are falling apart. Well no answer has come yet, and on top of it, we now need to replace our MiG-29's which we only have 3 currently that can fly, that have been upgraded to SMT/2 standard.
My problem is, that our government seems to think that joining the EU means we have to purchase the overpriced Eurofighter Typhoon. They have had talks that would include a promise to buy and upgrade the Soko G-4 Super Galeb to be exported all around Europe. But Russia has come to the table with another deal, saying if Serbia chose a MiG or Sukhoi, they would loan them $3 Billion US for any military spending. There is also Saab who was trying to sell the JAS-39 Gripen but those talks have died out.
To me there is only one logical choice, Russia. The Russia's would be giving a $3 Billion loan for modernization we desperately need, but our political leaderts seem to love kissing America, and the West's a$$. With Russia's plan we could purchase 30 Su-35's and upgrade our Soko J-22 Orao, and also give us enough money for the Army to acquire a full force of M-84AS's. Also they could even purchase a bulk load of older Su-27's or preferably MiG-29's to support the 30 Su-35's, which leaves them plenty of cash for maintenance, and also the option to upgrade Air Defense to Russia's new SAM-400's.
I understand that people will bash my suggestion of purchasing Su-35's. There argument will be that Serbia is too small to need such a big plane with tons of range, but if you look at the 1999 Kosovo Conflict, you can clearly see that the MiG-29's were dominated because they would have to leave the airspace to go refuel, leaving it vulnerable to US Air Force intrusion. If we had Su-35's, there long range would be used to patrol the skies until pilot fatigue comes into play. Simply meaning you have 24/7 control of your airspace, limiting the gaps an opposing air force has to invading your airspace. Especially if you have SAM-400's wherever the Su-35's are not patrolling. Serbia has mastered Low Frequency Radar, to acquire stealth aircraft. I don't see it to hard for them to do the same, except with fire and forget capabilities of the SAM-400, unlike the Neva which has to be guided all the way. I also disagree that we should be even looking at the Eurofighter. In my opinion this is the most overpriced aircraft in the 4.5Gen. I would rather take a cheaper Dassualt Rafale, than a fuel guzzling Eurofighter. It's ability to supercruise would be negated in the small Serbian airspace. The insane manuverability of the Sukhoi I would much prefer in tight airspace. There was a dogfight in 1999 over Serbia where the airspace was so full og planes, an F-15 almost shot down his own F-117 while he was in a dogfight with a MiG-29. The F-117 was literally flying in between the two dogfighting fighters lol. Such tight airspace would be dominated by the fast and maneuverable Su-35, plus with the new planned gas line that Russia is building through Serbia, it would help relations, and might get us into a Russia-India type relation, where our economy would get a boost by building some components indigenously and actually selling them back to Russia. Serbia has this capability with companies like Soko, Yugoimport, and Zastava, and definitely has the technical schools. I know this doesn't concern 90% of you guys, but feedback would be awesome. Especially answers too, do you think the Sukhoi Su-35 is worth it, how it compares to the Eurofighter, and does the Jas-39 Gripen stand a chance??? Would love some responses. Thanks Guys!
My problem is, that our government seems to think that joining the EU means we have to purchase the overpriced Eurofighter Typhoon. They have had talks that would include a promise to buy and upgrade the Soko G-4 Super Galeb to be exported all around Europe. But Russia has come to the table with another deal, saying if Serbia chose a MiG or Sukhoi, they would loan them $3 Billion US for any military spending. There is also Saab who was trying to sell the JAS-39 Gripen but those talks have died out.
To me there is only one logical choice, Russia. The Russia's would be giving a $3 Billion loan for modernization we desperately need, but our political leaderts seem to love kissing America, and the West's a$$. With Russia's plan we could purchase 30 Su-35's and upgrade our Soko J-22 Orao, and also give us enough money for the Army to acquire a full force of M-84AS's. Also they could even purchase a bulk load of older Su-27's or preferably MiG-29's to support the 30 Su-35's, which leaves them plenty of cash for maintenance, and also the option to upgrade Air Defense to Russia's new SAM-400's.
I understand that people will bash my suggestion of purchasing Su-35's. There argument will be that Serbia is too small to need such a big plane with tons of range, but if you look at the 1999 Kosovo Conflict, you can clearly see that the MiG-29's were dominated because they would have to leave the airspace to go refuel, leaving it vulnerable to US Air Force intrusion. If we had Su-35's, there long range would be used to patrol the skies until pilot fatigue comes into play. Simply meaning you have 24/7 control of your airspace, limiting the gaps an opposing air force has to invading your airspace. Especially if you have SAM-400's wherever the Su-35's are not patrolling. Serbia has mastered Low Frequency Radar, to acquire stealth aircraft. I don't see it to hard for them to do the same, except with fire and forget capabilities of the SAM-400, unlike the Neva which has to be guided all the way. I also disagree that we should be even looking at the Eurofighter. In my opinion this is the most overpriced aircraft in the 4.5Gen. I would rather take a cheaper Dassualt Rafale, than a fuel guzzling Eurofighter. It's ability to supercruise would be negated in the small Serbian airspace. The insane manuverability of the Sukhoi I would much prefer in tight airspace. There was a dogfight in 1999 over Serbia where the airspace was so full og planes, an F-15 almost shot down his own F-117 while he was in a dogfight with a MiG-29. The F-117 was literally flying in between the two dogfighting fighters lol. Such tight airspace would be dominated by the fast and maneuverable Su-35, plus with the new planned gas line that Russia is building through Serbia, it would help relations, and might get us into a Russia-India type relation, where our economy would get a boost by building some components indigenously and actually selling them back to Russia. Serbia has this capability with companies like Soko, Yugoimport, and Zastava, and definitely has the technical schools. I know this doesn't concern 90% of you guys, but feedback would be awesome. Especially answers too, do you think the Sukhoi Su-35 is worth it, how it compares to the Eurofighter, and does the Jas-39 Gripen stand a chance??? Would love some responses. Thanks Guys!