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July 23rd, 2009   Post 1
USMCGrunt
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Post; The scar




is this going to be the gun to replace the m16 this is what i heard
 
July 23rd, 2009   Post 2
c/Commander
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Right now, no. There is no slated replacement for the M16.
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July 24th, 2009   Post 3
USMCGrunt
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so there just juggling it around pretty much
 
July 24th, 2009   Post 4
5.56X45mm
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The SCAR is a weapon system that could in the future.... ie ten-twenty years from now replace the AR-15 series. The SCAR is becoming "the rifle" for the SpecOps community. Colt has lost it's final DoD contract with the M4. FN currently produces over 70% of the weapons for the DoD. They even have a current contract for M16A4 rifles and are trying to win the M4 contract.... if that happens FN will pump out M4s and try to change the DoD's hive mind to switch the M4 with the SCAR. But I don't see it happening ASAP. It's going to take a long while.

It's a fine piece of weaponry on the market right now and the semi-auto SCAR-16S that are hitting the civilian market are selling for about $2,600-$3,000 a pop.
 
July 24th, 2009   Post 5
the_13th_redneck
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Awesome.
When it comes to gun purchasing time, I ain't buying one without 5.56's advice.
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July 24th, 2009   Post 6
major liability
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I hope they come up with something a bit more revolutionary before they adopt something new for the entire military. SCAR is awesome and all but it's not a huge departure from what's already available. I want to see some caseless rifles, maybe an electronic firing mechanism, there are lots of possibilities.

I won't lie though, I really want a SCAR 17S.
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July 25th, 2009   Post 7
the_13th_redneck
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I don't quite understand but what is the true advantage of having caseless ammunition?
 
July 25th, 2009   Post 8
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It's a lot lighter because there's no shell, just propellant and the bullet. Also, when you don't have to eject spent brass you can fire much more quickly, that's how the G11 puts 3 rounds downrange before you feel the recoil.
 
July 25th, 2009   Post 9
KJ
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Well, why do you think the SCAR would need to have that capability?

I reckon the SCAR is one of the most interesting weapons in a while.
Why, well for a few reasons.
! When you take down a house you have a very compact weapon with stopping power enough.
Recoil during shots one and two is not a problem for an experienced shooter.
They train everyday to be able to put their first two bullets inside the parameters they need them to go.
And if you need more then two shots before shifting targets you shouldn´t be taking down that house full stop.

And 2, Once you have taken down said house your target interdiction man just changes his upper.
The fact that you change the entire upper lets you keep both sights zeroed even with a quick change.
This was not the case with the Steyr system wich had some of the same features but where you changed the barrel only.
Your TI man has got a zeroed snipersystem ready for overwatch in the time it takes him to change the upper.

I dunno, I haven´t tried it myself yet.
But the specs has gotten me curious.
If the system can deliver what the manufacturer claims it will give small units an advantage.

//KJ.
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Last edited by KJ; July 25th, 2009 at 19:24..
 
July 25th, 2009   Post 10
c/Commander
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Easy to change the upper on an AR-15 platform weapon as well; it's just two pins out, swap, two pins in, shoot. Not that anyone is going to be carrying a separate upper into combat for the occasion, that would be silly.
 



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