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August 22nd, 2007   #1
DTop
 
 

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Who Says Vets Can't Salute the Flag?

Have you ever been confused whether you're supposed to put your hand over your heart or if you're authorized to salute when the U.S. Flag passes or the national anthem is played?
Current law (Section 9 of title 4, United States Code) says that veterans and service members not in uniform should put their hands over their hearts. It doesn't expressly say they're not authorized to salute the Flag -- but it doesn't say they can, so that's the implication.
That's a sore spot for many veterans, for whom the salute is a point of pride in their service. Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) and Rep. Dan Boren (D-OK) introduced legislation (S. 1877 and H.R. 3380, respectively) to change the law to state that those present in uniform "should render the military salute. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute."
Last month, on July 25, the Senate approved S. 1877 by unanimous consent, and it has been forwarded to the House for consideration.
MOAA fully supports this change. Please note that it does not mandate the salute for members and veterans not in uniform, but simply clarifies that they are authorized to honor the Flag with a salute rather than the hand over the heart if they prefer.


Note: At least it's good to see bipartisan support on something.

http://www.moaa.org/www.moaa.org/lac...817.htm#issue3


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August 22nd, 2007   #2
A Can of Man
 
 
This should be changed.
Anyone who once saluted the flag earned the right to do this for the rest of their lives. It should not be provisional. Not to mention, many of these people continue to serve their country after their service is officially over.
 
August 22nd, 2007   #3
Spartacus
 
 
Sounds good to me...

Im glad they use "should" and "may" otherwise an "unauthorized" response would be a crime...


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August 22nd, 2007   #4
implicature
 
 
I agree. I earned the right to salute and i plan on using it throughout the rest of my days. I have seen things as a you service member that i thought were cheesy and saluting a flag out of uniform used to be one of them. However after i matured (I still have a long way to go) i realized that some things can't be understood unless you have lived them. Saluting a flag isn't something civilians do... in my eyes a VETERAN will never be a civilian.


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August 22nd, 2007   #5
Team Infidel
 
 
pretty low key distro though.... it passed a month or so ago.


 
August 22nd, 2007   #6
Del Boy
 
Question here. 'When in uniform' - does this have to include hat or cap? Brits have to be wearing headgear to salute; is this so in USA?

Glad the Vets have been accomodated.
 
August 22nd, 2007   #7
AJChenMPH
 
 
2nd question: any word on whether the language was changed from "Armed Forces" to "Uniformed Services"? Strange as it may seem, USPHS and NOAA would only be included if "Uniformed Services" was used...




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August 22nd, 2007   #8
senojekips
 
 
This law like some others is one of those that is best ignored.

In Australia it is forbidden for persons outside of the Navy to use the White Ensign without prior approval of navy office. There is presently a concerted civil disobedience campaign in operation among Ex Naval groups who are supplying Ensigns for use at the burials of ex Naval personel.


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August 22nd, 2007   #9
DTop
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Infidel
pretty low key distro though.... it passed a month or so ago.
That may be because it has yet to be considered by the House of Reps. I'd sure like to see this passed and see vets saluting the flag.
I'd also like to see 2 by 4s being rattled off the back of the heads of those who won't even remain quiet through the playing of the national anthem. But maybe we'll save that bill for the next session of congress?
 
August 23rd, 2007   #10
Rob Henderson
 
 
Amen to that. Both parts of your bill, Top.
 



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