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December 22nd, 2005   Post 1
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Post; Saddam Believes He Was Betrayed


LONDON - (AP) A lawyer for Saddam Hussein said the deposed Iraqi
leader believes someone tipped off U.S. forces to his whereabouts two years
ago and that he was gassed while hiding in the spider hole, a newspaper
reported Monday.
The Sun also quoted former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark as
saying Saddam only spent a short time in the hole near his hometown of
Tikrit when he was captured in December 2003, and a motorcycle was supposed
to be waiting for him to help him get away.
"Saddam thinks he was gassed in the tunnel," the newspaper quoted
Clark as saying. "He tried to get to the exit of the tunnel. But he did not
have time to get away. He told us he spent maybe minutes in this tunnel _
not hours or days.
"When he started to get out there were soldiers around that area.
There was supposed to be a motorcycle there. It was gone," Clark told the
newspaper.
He is a member of Saddam's defense team in the trial on mass murder
charges.
"Saddam knew the person who owned the house wasn't there. He knew he
had been betrayed," Clark said.
He said Saddam told his lawyers he had been moving around Iraq daily
with the help of insurgents.
"But every few days he came back to this escape area. Now he knows
it was a mistake. Probably American soldiers did not discover the hole. They
were told about it," Clark said.
The Sun quoted a man identified as Issam Gazyzwi, said to be another
of Saddam's lawyers, as saying Saddam had not seen the picture of himself
dressed only in underpants which appeared on The Sun's front page in May.
"Saddam has not actually seen the pictures. He tried to take it
philosophically," Gazyzwi was quoted as saying.
Saddam and seven others are charged with killing more than 140
people in the town of Dujail in 1982. Their trial is scheduled to resume
Dec. 21.
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December 22nd, 2005   Post 2
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Pardon my ignorance but what in the name of Joseph does the issue of whether or not he was betrayed have to do with his guilt or innocence as to the charges he faces?!? Holy Mary mother of God who gives a rat's arse HOW he was captured, that has SFA to do with his crimes. This is typical lawyerese, if you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, blind em with your bull. I had originally been quite puzzled as to why an Iraqi trial would require the expertise of one Ramsey Clark... now I see.
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December 22nd, 2005   Post 3
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bulldogg
I absolutely couldn't agree more if I were the one to have taken poison pen in hand and scribbled a few lines questioning what Saddam's betrayal had to with crimes he is charged with. The one doesn't have squat beans to do with the other. As far as Ramsey Clark is concerned, who the h*ll cares?
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December 22nd, 2005   Post 4
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and right now (CNN is showing his trial) he is repeating the same stuff Dems say in the states! I wonder if he was told to say these things by Ramsey Clarck
 
December 22nd, 2005   Post 5
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They don't call lawyers mouth pieces fer nothing
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December 23rd, 2005   Post 6
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I remember him as "Pansey" Clark
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December 24th, 2005   Post 7
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tomtom
You got the "anse" wrong. There is supposed to be 3 other letters in that "nickname".
"Hint" - it's what goes before the name of a United States Navy Warship.
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December 26th, 2005   Post 8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Bones
tomtom
You got the "anse" wrong. There is supposed to be 3 other letters in that "nickname".
"Hint" - it's what goes before the name of a United States Navy Warship.
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I was being polite, Chief, don't want to get banned.

BTW, I agree with you.
 
December 26th, 2005   Post 9
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Ramsey clarck also met with ayatollah Khomeini during the hostage crisis
 
December 26th, 2005   Post 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phoenix80
Ramsey clarck also met with ayatollah Khomeini during the hostage crisis
Phoenix, he also went to Vietnam like Jane Fonda. Unfortunately, he was also from Dallas and (gulp) a UT graduate.

"Following his term he worked as a law professor and was active in the anti-Vietnam War movement. He visited North Vietnam in 1972. In 1974 he was the Democratic Party's candidate for the United States Senate from New York but lost to Jacob Javits. "
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