As I've said over and over again, show me and I'll believe the hype.
I don't trust every piece of American hardware either.

Both US and Russia over exaggerate the bull they produce. Every time I go to a newsagent and look at one of the military magazines, you always see the same thing "USA has built new super weapon capable of smacking all the vodka out of Russias backside..."

Well everyone does because they have to sell the darn things.
We're getting a bit off topic so....

Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

Personally I am happy that they are rusting away but it is a pretty sad sight for what used to be a grand submarine fleet.

now new subs are made - the Boraya type submarines.
The God of northern wind in translation.

They're having problems producing the missiles for the Borei-class, and the boats themselves are pretty expensive...

Originally Posted by c/Commander

They're having problems producing the missiles for the Borei-class, and the boats themselves are pretty expensive...

Yeah, the Bulava missile has been having some problems, but they will probably fix it all up. If not, then they will just use another missile.

Yeah they're going to get it right sooner or later.

Russians subs are off our coast just like our subs are off of their coast. I'm surprised that people are still surprised about this.

It's honestly kind of a who-cares moment. They have two fast-attacks off our coast...so what? They aren't carrying nuclear weapons...

Originally Posted by Zastava-Arms

Both US and Russia over exaggerate the bull they produce. Every time I go to a newsagent and look at one of the military magazines, you always see the same thing "USA has built new super weapon capable of smacking all the vodka out of Russias backside..."

Dont want to start a flame war or anything, but i see you live in Australia so why are you defending Russia so much? If russia is so great then why dont you live there? (Depending if you are Russian offcourse)

and again this is a serious question, not my intention to start trouble.