I saw the full documentary.
The failure was also not in the siege itself but the work afterwards. Most of the people are believed to have drowned in their own vomit. Anyone with basic knowledge of first aid can tell you that if there is vomiting, you never put the guys on their backs like that. By using such a potent poison, it's almost ludicrous that no one considered vomiting on the part of the hostages.
But you are right. Those terrorists had that place wired up pretty good.

i doubt it is the most elite in the world, as far as i know the british SAS are better than any US elite forces, the french GIGN is also a very elite force.

Hey let's avoid that sort of talk. It leads to flame wars and you can't ever prove it.

Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

Hey let's avoid that sort of talk. It leads to flame wars and you can't ever prove it.

SAS teaches US Air Force a lesson.
The use of ground to air communications by the scud hunting SAS during the Gulf War was so useful that US Special Forces have tried to emulate the crack British Regiment in Afghanistan by being 'data-linked' to every form of aircraft over the country. The US Special Forces use back-pack satellite linked laptops and GPS to provide intelligence on friendly troop movements and precise targeting co-ordinates on the others. Apparently the US system has thrown up one fault. Changing batteries in the GPS whilst actually performing target acquisition results in the target grid reference being changed to that of the sender, as one US Sergeant found. Apart from resulting in a battery modification it also attracted an attack from bombers overhead.

http://www.cvni.net/radio/e2k/e2k12news.html

Delta's organization, selection and training on the British SAS model. u probably dun know SAS are US special forces's mentor.

Of course I know that. Because the SAS are the grand daddy of almost every modern SF organization. I've even read a whole book on the founding of Delta.
That does't neccesarily make them the best.
I personally believe the SAS are but that's just my own opinion that can't really be proved or disproved.

You should follow your own advice, 13th.
gingerbread, you are dangerously close to a ban. Read the forum rules before posting again.


The next member who makes an off-topic post here will be temporarily banned.

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LINK:

http://sy.cowiki.org/2737.html

Cheers:
Doc.S