I think a war between China and the US will be very unconventional. China's supply lines are very vulnerable, and the US is not going to send troops to invade China because it is to big to take, so there will be no major battles between US and China ground forces. It will be a naval and air battle untill one economy collapses, and China cannot protect its supply lines nor threaten the US ones.

I guess if war will become between us (i mean Russia) and China - the main strike will be inflicted from Vladivostok, Blagoveshensk, and Khabarovsk to South Jakutia till Ural mountains. BUT! The topography on this part of Russia territory is very hard to ground force (tanks, soldiers, machines). The will prefer to use troops and air force to begin invasion. But they can't reach supremacy in the air, because we have S-300, and S-400 antiaircraft SAMs. The have them too, but the maximum attack range of Chineese S-300/400 analogs is much shorter than Russian-made missiles. I saw the Chineese blueprints of S-300 rockets. It's a bullsheet
S-400 don't leave a chanse even to American aircraft's. I don't talk about Chineese aircrafts, because them much worse then ANY US aircraft.
So i guess this war will be only on the borders of the warring sides.

looking at google earth, i came to this opinion. if it were a nuclear exchange. i believe the USA would win, as we would be the remaning military superpower.

in a conventional battle, the loser will be the one who attempts to invade the other power, as both regions have a long history of absorbing invaders.


an invasion into Russia from china, or into china, from Russia, presents a very dicey logistics issue. as in between the soviet center of power, (around the ural mountans) and the Chinese center of power. (the yangtse river) is a very large swath of wilderness. with limited, and very venerable transportation infrastructure.


i think this may be the main reason why there was no open war between Stalin’s USSR, and chairman Moe’s china, even if those tyrants may have been amendable to such an expansion of there own brand of tyranny. at no time, was either one of those powers capable of even starting a successful invasion. and i don’t think that reality has significantly changed.

Originally Posted by wayword son

looking at google earth, i came to this opinion. if it were a nuclear exchange. i believe the USA would win,

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I don't agree, in the event of a nuclear exchange no one would win.

Someone once said, "I was asked if WW3 would involve nuclear weapons, I replied if it did, WW4 would be fought with clubs."

Just because it's a Military Aircraft Discussions...
Who can said, what anti-aircraft/missile system is best? Any opinios? With data plz.
(range, speed, type of targeting e.t.c)

Originally Posted by BritinAfrica

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I don't agree, in the event of a nuclear exchange no one would win.

Someone once said, "I was asked if WW3 would involve nuclear weapons, I replied if it did, WW4 would be fought with clubs."

Albert Einstein: and it was sticks and stones.

Originally Posted by Big_Z

Albert Einstein: and it was sticks and stones.

thats ok with me.

when i was a much younger lad, i was a member of a midevil historical sosiety, and learned how to fight sword and shield. just have to buff the rust off my sword, sweep the cobwebs out of the castle. and i'm set

sticking to the topic of a russia Vs. china air war, (looking past politics) The Sukhoi T-50 for russia may be a game changer, but the chinese J-10 may pose a threat, overall russia in my opinion would outdo the chinese, and to actually get political if this conflict arose the chinese air force is supplied by russian tech, the battle could be even until china runs out of planes, and russia would take over the sky.

The T-50 won't be in service for a few years but they are modernising their su-24s and su-27s as well as buying su-35, su-34, and su-30sm/m2. The plaaf is mainly made up of obselete j-7 and j-8 interceptors with smaller amounts of su-30mkk, su-27sk, j-11a/b, and j-10s coming into service. The chinese have better awacs but russian ground based radars and sams are superior to any chinese system.

I think Russia's flag looks cooler...

And I am afraid until rounds start popping off that's as far as anyone can take this.