Topic: Russia getting new equipment 4

Shadowalker · February 1st, 2005

Is the project between india and russia to build a 5th gen fighter still going ahead? Could be a very good plane with russian expertise and indian money, would it be exported in the same way as past migs and sukhois or is it just going to be a russian/indian plane?

Snauhi · February 1st, 2005

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Originally Posted by Shadowalker

Is the project between india and russia to build a 5th gen fighter still going ahead? Could be a very good plane with russian expertise and indian money, would it be exported in the same way as past migs and sukhois or is it just going to be a russian/indian plane?

Its going forward, but i dont think that it will be exported to any others nations.

Sexybeast · February 1st, 2005

lol.....

U.S get out of ur own land cuz those lands belong to indians..

get out now

and china get out tibet too

godofthunder9010 · February 1st, 2005

What I would like to see sometime at some point is a final end to the role that Russia people have been locked into for many centuries: The role of getting screwed over in general and nothing ever seems to go right for them.

The Mongols pulled back from Eastern Europe, but unlucky Russia remained occupied by them for hundreds of years. The tsars of Russia were seldom ever looking out for the best interests of their people and were brutal lords in most circumstances. World War I, the Russians suffered terribly. This led them directly into the Bolshevik Revolution and Communist rule ... which ultimately led them back to the same mess. The people were sacrificed for the "greater good of Russia/the USSR", etc. Stalin easily outdid any tsar in his insane brutalization of the Russian People. Every former member of the Warsaw Pact is doing relatively well after the fall of Communism with one notable exception: Russia (and the other Commonwealth States).

When are the Russian People going to catch a break???

Sexybeast · February 1st, 2005

how long do u think Russia can become a ECONOMIC super power again

godofthunder9010 · February 1st, 2005

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Originally Posted by Sexybeast

how long do u think Russia can become a ECONOMIC super power again

In reality, I don't believe they ever were an ECONOMIC Super-Power. Mostly, they just focussed more their economy on building up their military and let everything else go. I hope things work out for Russia someday.

Sexybeast · February 2nd, 2005

well...there were a period that Soviet Union's GDP is some 70-80% of U.S's GDP...

although not a free market, Soviets' economy still helps Soviet union to have a huge and strong military during that time.....

one thing we must agree is that only strong economy can sustain a strong military power in a long term base (not short time, if russia's economy still does not improve, and its military facilities stop selling weapons to india and china, its "strong" and "state-of-art" military tech will perish probably)

MadeInChina · February 2nd, 2005

well, to first improve the economy must come new resolutions and new laws

ive read articles about russia's social unrest and sex slave trade, its a pretty scary russia

its mostly the probelms with the government.

godofthunder9010 · February 2nd, 2005

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Originally Posted by Sexybeast

well...there were a period that Soviet Union's GDP is some 70-80% of U.S's GDP...

although not a free market, Soviets' economy still helps Soviet union to have a huge and strong military during that time.....

one thing we must agree is that only strong economy can sustain a strong military power in a long term base (not short time, if russia's economy still does not improve, and its military facilities stop selling weapons to india and china, its "strong" and "state-of-art" military tech will perish probably)

I'm not sure that the Soviet Union ever truly had that level of GDP, though I don't doubt that they probably reported it as such. Unfortunately, the ol' Soviet Union was not very forthcoming about real facts with a strong tendency to report 'creatively modified' numbers. It may have been a bogus GDP reporting or something else. They also pegged the value of the Ruble at 1 dollar even though everybody knew it was never actually worth that. Its really hard to say what truly went on.

You're right when you say that a strong economy is essential to maintain a strong military. Russia's military technology is superb, but their economy is a mess and they can't actually mass produce their lovely inventions for themselves because they can't afford it. I wish I could fix it for them but the source of the problems lie with the Russian people. Such is always the case when it comes to economics. When the majority of Russians become obsessed with Russia's success and work as hard as they are capable of to achieve it, prosperity is not far off. The Russian Mafia isn't helping matters.

MadeInChina · February 4th, 2005

only time will tell

in the meanwhile the mafias controlling the economy

February 1st, 2005	Post 34
godofthunder9010 Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	What I would like to see sometime at some point is a final end to the role that Russia people have been locked into for many centuries: The role of getting screwed over in general and nothing ever seems to go right for them. The Mongols pulled back from Eastern Europe, but unlucky Russia remained occupied by them for hundreds of years. The tsars of Russia were seldom ever looking out for the best interests of their people and were brutal lords in most circumstances. World War I, the Russians suffered terribly. This led them directly into the Bolshevik Revolution and Communist rule ... which ultimately led them back to the same mess. The people were sacrificed for the "greater good of Russia/the USSR", etc. Stalin easily outdid any tsar in his insane brutalization of the Russian People. Every former member of the Warsaw Pact is doing relatively well after the fall of Communism with one notable exception: Russia (and the other Commonwealth States). When are the Russian People going to catch a break??? __________________ "It is well that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it." - General Robert E. Lee Warning, critical pebkac error in the iD10t!! pebkac\wtflolurpwnzd\snafuroflmao.exe called iD10t, iD10t failed to respond!! System in danger!! "It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man." -Chevy Chase

February 2nd, 2005	Post 38
MadeInChina Primus Pilus	well, to first improve the economy must come new resolutions and new laws ive read articles about russia's social unrest and sex slave trade, its a pretty scary russia its mostly the probelms with the government. __________________ A signature is a little text that can be added at the bottom of the posts you make. It\'s limited to 300 characters (size 7 to 12) on 5 line(s) and 1 image(s) with none larger than 100x500 pixels and for a maximum of 20Kb. In your text, no more than 100 characters without space too.

February 1st, 2005	Post 31
Shadowalker Primus Pilus	Is the project between india and russia to build a 5th gen fighter still going ahead? Could be a very good plane with russian expertise and indian money, would it be exported in the same way as past migs and sukhois or is it just going to be a russian/indian plane?

February 1st, 2005	Post 33
Sexybeast Banned	lol..... U.S get out of ur own land cuz those lands belong to indians.. get out now and china get out tibet too

February 1st, 2005	Post 35
Sexybeast Banned	how long do u think Russia can become a ECONOMIC super power again

February 2nd, 2005	Post 37
Sexybeast Banned	well...there were a period that Soviet Union's GDP is some 70-80% of U.S's GDP... although not a free market, Soviets' economy still helps Soviet union to have a huge and strong military during that time..... one thing we must agree is that only strong economy can sustain a strong military power in a long term base (not short time, if russia's economy still does not improve, and its military facilities stop selling weapons to india and china, its "strong" and "state-of-art" military tech will perish probably)

February 4th, 2005	Post 40
MadeInChina Primus Pilus	only time will tell in the meanwhile the mafias controlling the economy