Topic: Russia and America 2

Snauhi · November 2nd, 2004

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Originally Posted by SHERMAN

Well, as long as they have an election, than its OK with me.

with me too .

egoz · November 2nd, 2004

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Originally Posted by SHERMAN

Ahmmm...The Russain govronment is elected democraticly, and dose not regard itself at all as communist. And while the civil rights in Russia are not as developed as in the USA, its still a democracy in my eyes.

Well I was talking about the reminants of the Soviet Government still being in power. Just because you have an elected official doesn't mean the government was democratic (Saddam Hussien). I'm not saying the elections in Russia were rigged or anything, but how can the US be expected to trust a government with the former head of the KGB as their president?

egoz · November 2nd, 2004

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Originally Posted by Hegario

Not for long in my opinion. This is Putins second term but his party has two thirds majority in the duma so he can push forth a change in the constitution which will allow him to run for a third term or possibly even for life like Lukashenko in Belarus.

along those lines, the intel community wouldn't be surprised at all if Putin pushes for a communist government again anyway.

Hegario · November 2nd, 2004

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Originally Posted by egoz

along those lines, the intel community wouldn't be surprised at all if Putin pushes for a communist government again anyway.

The communist party doesn't even have any minister-positions. I'd say the autocrats, oligarchs & ultra-nationalists in Russia are more of a threat than the communists. Their agenda might include reinstating the Soviet Union but they are not the same communist as before, more like social democrats. A communist takeover now is about as ridiculous as a communist takeover in the USA in the 1950's.

Snauhi · November 2nd, 2004

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Originally Posted by egoz

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Originally Posted by Hegario

Not for long in my opinion. This is Putins second term but his party has two thirds majority in the duma so he can push forth a change in the constitution which will allow him to run for a third term or possibly even for life like Lukashenko in Belarus.

along those lines, the intel community wouldn't be surprised at all if Putin pushes for a communist government again anyway.

god damn, noone will become a communists again..

godofthunder9010 · November 2nd, 2004

I think that Putin or someone like him becoming absolute dictator is the greater worry. Odds are good considering how badly things have been going for the Russians.

FlyingFrog · November 2nd, 2004

Putin will not have next 4 years term. They cannot turn the Clock back to USSR time anymore. When you become "Democratic" then you will NEVER be able to go back to "Dictatorship" anymore, I believe.

Shadowalker · November 2nd, 2004

they may go autocratic, putin seems to be doing a good job of suppressing his political rivals, the media is largely under kremlin control. how is he going to be voted out of office? if theres a limit to time in office that could change

Darcia · November 2nd, 2004

Putin has said he would like to have more power and has spoke of having an amendment done to give him More Power

But Look alot of nations when from Democracy to Dictatorship.

Shadowalker · November 2nd, 2004

that was mainly in the 1920s-30s though, but there are similarities as it was in the time of the great depression and russia is just recovering from a depression, which is when the likes of hitler/mussolini took power. (im not comparing putin to either of them)

November 2nd, 2004	Post 16
godofthunder9010 Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	I think that Putin or someone like him becoming absolute dictator is the greater worry. Odds are good considering how badly things have been going for the Russians. __________________ "It is well that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it." - General Robert E. Lee Warning, critical pebkac error in the iD10t!! pebkac\wtflolurpwnzd\snafuroflmao.exe called iD10t, iD10t failed to respond!! System in danger!! "It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man." -Chevy Chase

November 2nd, 2004	Post 17
FlyingFrog Tribuni Angusticlavii	Putin will not have next 4 years term. They cannot turn the Clock back to USSR time anymore. When you become "Democratic" then you will NEVER be able to go back to "Dictatorship" anymore, I believe. __________________ From Corporals to Generals. Rising Dragons of Middle Kingdom. http://s3.invisionfree.com/PLA_MILIT...TURE/index.php

November 2nd, 2004	Post 19
Darcia Tribuni Angusticlavii	Putin has said he would like to have more power and has spoke of having an amendment done to give him More Power But Look alot of nations when from Democracy to Dictatorship. __________________ ^_^

November 2nd, 2004	Post 18
Shadowalker Primus Pilus	they may go autocratic, putin seems to be doing a good job of suppressing his political rivals, the media is largely under kremlin control. how is he going to be voted out of office? if theres a limit to time in office that could change

November 2nd, 2004	Post 20
Shadowalker Primus Pilus	that was mainly in the 1920s-30s though, but there are similarities as it was in the time of the great depression and russia is just recovering from a depression, which is when the likes of hitler/mussolini took power. (im not comparing putin to either of them)