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September 19th, 2009   Post 1
the_13th_redneck
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Post; RNC used fake soldiers for ad.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDWDAEHmOT0

Not good. Not good at all.
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September 19th, 2009   Post 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
Pretty much out of date from last September. Also, this is a youtube video in response to a Repuplican political ad, it is not the CBS Report on the subject. The narrator does not identify himself, but it is a AirAmerica Media dubbed video.

AirAmerica Media bills itself as a leading "progressive" channel. Might be considered a little biased.

Basically, this is part of the mudslinging that was going on last year.

You are right in that it is not a very good dubbed over video. Not good at all.
 
September 19th, 2009   Post 3
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Holdin off onthis one Not enough to confirm or condemn. However Airamerica is very anti right and this could be prop-agit Bs.Needs some research IMHO
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September 19th, 2009   Post 4
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Here is the actual CBS News Story dated September 4th 2008.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...in;contentBody

"It was a video that was supposed to elicit soaring patriotism and real emotions about the Pledge of Allegiance. But to do that, it used fake soldiers and a staged military funeral instead of the real thing."quote from the article

The full story should be read. Then ask yourself a few unbiased questions.

The RNC made the video to go along with an essay written by a contest winner. It was used at their convention. There was no attempt by the RNC to claim the video was real.

Lots of people opposed to the Republicans made a big deal about it.

I have one question.

Would it have been more proper for a film crew to go to a serviceman's funeral and ask the family, "if it would be OK to film for a commercial"?

It was much ado about nothing then, and a year later it deserves nothing more now.

From the way the CBS reporter wrote the article, it does not sound like he would have been satisfied unless they also filmed the actual Continental Congress.
 
September 19th, 2009   Post 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chukpike
I have one question.

Would it have been more proper for a film crew to go to a serviceman's funeral and ask the family, "if it would be OK to film for a commercial"?

Should anyone be making commercials involving a serviceman's funeral?
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September 19th, 2009   Post 6
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Especially for a political party.
If uniform of my service was used in a political advertisement of one of the political parties over here, I'd be pissed. Even more so if those guys wearing it aren't and weren't in the service.
 
September 19th, 2009   Post 7
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Oh, please. And the political correctness agenda keeps growing.
I think it is horrible that people exploit war and make movies of it all the time. Oh! My! God! how can they be so insensitive. blah, blah, blah blah.

Looks, like no one bothered to use the link and read what the 3 minute RNC video was all about. My fault for using the word commercial, it was a short story video, long enough for the essay contest winner to recite her essay. It was not shown on TV as a commercial, it was only shown at the convention as part of the program.

Everyone just wants to do the tsk, tsk, tsk campaign.

When was the last time you saw a political ad where the candidate sat at a desk and talked straight into the camera about specific issues? BORING!

Let's show happy kids on a play ground as we talk about education.

Let's show beautiful forests as we talk about the environment.(Unless you want to show how the other side corrupts the environment, then you throw some dead fish in a puddle).

Showing Soldiers, tanks, planes as you talk about defense. Probably with a flag waving in the background. Camera angle from below the candidate(makes em look taller)

Not so long ago the media demanded the government allow them to show the caskets coming back from overseas. What did the media do when they were allowed to show them? Nothing, they had won their battle and did not need to show them, except as a backdrop for dramatic effect to lead in some other story.(You remember how the media hyped this up to make it seem like the administration was hiding something. Where is the concern now?)

Really want to save time on this topic, just read the comments to the CBS story on the link.

The actual article is a bland very short vanilla, milk toast article.

As far as using real soldiers, they would have to join SAG as most commercials are union. We should really demand real soldiers be used in all the movies too, and let the actors go fight.

The youtube AirAmerica Media video in the original post is not even representative or claim to use the RNC video, who knows where they got their film?

Probably said or ranted to much on this. Just thought it was such a non, out of date story, it was funny.
 
September 19th, 2009   Post 8
LeEnfield
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Really, whats new in all this. This has been going on since at least WW1 and if not before.
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September 19th, 2009   Post 9
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Geezzz...that's just morbid..where's peoples head at these days
 
September 20th, 2009   Post 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyB
Should anyone be making commercials involving a serviceman's funeral?
Thats my sentiments also.Don't use a serviceman for.your political gain. thats just low
 



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