To brake your little dialog

I think that in a situation like this even the Holy Father would recognise the importance and give up his pacifist policy.

So imagine a call for another Crusade and the numbers of Christians in this world and in a case like this I think thath the Roman and Orthodox churches would stand side by side so count in Russia so the muslims wouldn't be the only ones deployng the human wave tactic. And the Russians have a century of experiance in this


But I think that the question that arises here is are these days still ENOUGH people so fanatical that these could hapen

Nice idea, but A) The Catholic Church In all it's wisdom wouldn't vouch for it, hey Im catholic but the Church these days would never vouch for violence. B) We wouldnt get any support from the whole damn world. That being said, I'll go get my horse and longsword, Saladin aint got nothing on me [/i]

We still have a great fear and hatred for the muslims in our country (we still have stories of the big bad Ata Turk coming to get you to scare children) as we were the buffer zone between Turkey and Austro-Hungary and we suffered tremendously for hunderts of years, also Croatia isn't to fond of them.

So count in 2.000.000 fanatics on the Christian side.

And Guy do you just hapen to have an extra long sword

Im sure I can dig one up somwhere

didn't nostradamus predict WW3 would be in the middle-east? the blue turbaned persian?

The thing that nags at the back of my mind is the fact that the Far East and India constitute such giant chunk of humanity that I can't help but wonder how they would be involved in a conflict that is predicted to cover all nations. The collective nations of Islam cannot begin to equal China + India in overall manpower. That's not even counting the rest of Asia.

Originally Posted by Chocobo_Blitzer

didn't nostradamus predict WW3 would be in the middle-east? the blue turbaned persian?

Yes he did. Also Nostradamus says, the Blue turbaned guy will have a second in command wearing a white turban.

Blue and white turbans are popular among many high rangking Muslim clerics.

According to Muslim prophecy the Mahdi will rise and someone who the Muslims cal Jesus will appear to be second to the Mahdi.

According to Biblical prophecy you have the Anti-christ with a second in command called the false prophet.

On a more ominuos note---Nostradamus also predicts that that the guys with the turbans will have a general under them as terrible and brilliant as Hannibal ( Hannibal Infernal ) who will cause great destruction and who just like Hannibal, will go into Italy.

Originally Posted by godofthunder9010

The thing that nags at the back of my mind is the fact that the Far East and India constitute such giant chunk of humanity that I can't help but wonder how they would be involved in a conflict that is predicted to cover all nations. The collective nations of Islam cannot begin to equal China + India in overall manpower. That's not even counting the rest of Asia.

As far as India is concerned....

There war may atually start there.

Kashmir may be the spark that does it.

My oppinion is that an armed and united Muslim empire will be able to easily defeat India. If the war starts there, although India has a equally large population, I don't think they will be able to mobilize fast or have the weapons to arm enough of their citizens to fight. Even if they do since their weapons will most likely be inferior, they will need to outnumber the Muslims but they don't, so on this basis they will fight on equal terms which will cause them to lose.

An ancient Peruvian prophecy does acutally say that WWIII will start in in India.

The Bible also says that the Anti-christ will first go to war against the king of the South ( India, most likely ), and then turn to fight the king of the North ( Nato or the EU most likely ).

How accurate this is, only time will tell. But in the way things are going, unfortunately they maybe all to accurate.

As far as China is concerened , they might be the allies of the Mahdi, I can't say that for sure thought. They probably will use this opportunity to invade Taiwan. They may eventually they will see him as a threat and join the West, but I can't be sure of this at all, or they could just use this as an opportunity for profiteering, it's hard to say.

If this empire would rise, I bet China would first play off it and take Taiwan while the US isn't looking. Then maybe later, joining the west seeing how dire the situation has become. Also, didn't nostradamus say that a unlikely allience would be made? the "eagle and the sun"?

I guessing it will happen just as you outlined. The Chinese are great oppurtunist, plus I don't think the US will want to risk a two front war.

As for the Eagle and the Sun...

The Sun and the Eagle will appear to the victor.
An empty answer assured to the defeated.
Neither bugle nor shouts will stop the soldiers.
Liberty and peace, if achieved in time through death.


The Eagle is most likely the USA, hard to say who the Sun is, some say it's Louis XIV the sun king, but I'm not sure about his 100 %. If this pertains to the future then I think it is China, since the sun doesn't symbolize any Western nation. Also the sun was China's symbol before the communist took over, but I can't say for sure.

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