I just love how we sell of our technology.

Originally Posted by Team Infidel

I just love how we sell of our technology.

Capitalism. Demand and Supply.

Capitalism. Demand and Supply.

Or giveing/selling our allies the means to defend themselves from our enemies?
(happy momar - edit)

I think Taiwan would have to be armed to the teeth to defend against china at this point. China is the second largest spender on military items in the world and they are quickly modernizing their forces and gaining more and more international influence in the matter.

I think that taiwan should be independent if the people want that, but patriot missiles or anything else won't deter the mainland from getting taiwan back should a conflict arise. Obviously a military isn't going to work at all in the future, it's diplomacy and lots of it, reconciliation i suppose.

I think that taiwan should be independent if the people want that, but patriot missiles or anything else won't deter the mainland from getting taiwan back should a conflict arise.

And why wont it?

Originally Posted by Rabs

Or giveing our allies the means to defend themselves from our enemies?

Selling is not exactly giving.

I think, in this context, giving is more like enabling the sale of, or permissing the opportunity for our allies to buy technology made by US companies that have contracts with the government. I could be wrong, but I do remember something about how Boeing (or was it Lockheed) wanted to sell some jet to another country, but the US govt stepped in and said no dice. I think this jurisdiction only applies to open contracts on new technology though. Wish I could find that story.

Originally Posted by Rabs

Or giveing/selling our allies the means to defend themselves from our enemies?
(happy momar - edit)

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but why the price is so freaking high, and why not just give taiwain these weapons for free or give them a huge discount? so that taiwanese can save some money to buy something special.

Originally Posted by filmmaker

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but why the price is so freaking high, and why not just give taiwain these weapons for free or give them a huge discount? so that taiwanese can save some money to buy something special.

Because here in the US we value the time and effort of our workers? As for the price, you pay for what you get.

Originally Posted by ASTRALdragon

Because here in the US we value the time and effort of our workers? As for the price, you pay for what you get.

do you think there in taiwan people did't value the time and effort of their taxpayers, and what taiwanese got is what really they paid for? what a vague answer you give to me!

you didn't clearly answer my question about the high price, because you are still talking about Capitalism, Demand and Supply. the term of giving allies to defend themselves are just kind of beautiful words to use.
speaking of the price, of course, I know business is business. what i try to say is that there is no free bread at all , but the price has to be reasonable and fair.

in the case of taiwan's weapon purchase, the cost of NT$25 billion for getting 4 obsolete Kidd class destroyers from 1970's, plus the cost of maintenance, initiation of weaponry systems and related equipment, port reconstruction, logistics and personnel doesn't really suit this concept that you pay for what you get. this is not a weapon of selling,this is rip-off!

US tried twice in 1998 and 1999 to sell these four old kidd destroyers to Greece and Australia, but both of them turned down the offer due to this freaking high price. so, let me ask this do you think without CCP's threat taiwan will buy these four old military toys by paying freaking NT $ 25 billion? I just wonder where the concept that we are giving or selling our allies to defend themselves from their enemy is? no matter how unhappy and dissatisfied taiwanese feel about the age and prices of these weapons, they still have to restrain their feeling because US is the only country insisting to sell weapon to taiwain for purpose of self- denfence under china's extremely heavy protest. what taiwan really need is that they can pay fair and reasonable price to buy new and anvanced weapons for better self-defence.
so, I feel I have to point out that instead of wasting plenty of time to talk about how US should defend democacy in taiwain, US had better sell some good military stuffs to taiwain with good price.