Originally Posted by MontyB

I am not sure he needed someone who understood armour as much as he needed someone that understood a strategic plan, as I understand things (and I may be wrong) AGS was the more mechanised of the groups which meant that it would have been easier to keep up with his armoured thrusts.

Army Group North I think would have been the worst option for him due to the more contained nature of the terrain but I think he would have been ok in either Centre or South.

The main reason for sticking him under a commander who understood armour was to reduce the inevitable friction that Rommel would produce if he was under the command of a more traditional commander like say Gunther von Kluge. Kluge was bad enough with Guderian's need to push forward and exploit breakthroughs - he'd have a fit trying to control Rommel who's ego, as Perseus said, was enormous and inflated. At least if Hoth, Hopner or Guderian were his commander they'd understand and appreciate Rommel's tactical reasoning and give him his head when it was appropriate. BTW, AGC was the most mechanised of the 3 army groups so he'd probably fit in best there.

Originally Posted by bulldogg

This is untrue or I wouldn't have posted the query to you. Thank you for clarifying your position. Earlier comments you made in a previous thread regarding the "occupation of Palestine" have put you on my list for lack of a better phrase and I'm sensitive to any comment you make regarding muslim nations and their interactions with the rest of the world. We've had terrorist sympathisers and recruiters on this site before, I pray you are not one.

Bulldogg, I have never said anything about "occupation of Palestine"....let say I did, what is the problem with saying that? Am I distorting history?

Whether You like You like it or not Bulldogg history is history and it is a fact that Palestine is indeed occuppied. Are you denying that it is not? The whole world from the United States, EU, Russia, China and the whole UN recognizes that Palestine is occuppied? What do you call it not "occupation" would you perfer a more euphamistic word "borrowing".

Whether you deny it or not fact is fact. And if you think that makes me terrorist, it only shows how........you know what I won't even get into it with you, cuz you are only trying to goad me and provoke me.

You have something called Islamophobia, you believe any muslim that remotely speaks his/her mind and says something that doesn't fall into line with your thinking is a terrorist. Why am I not surprised that you would say such things.

Because Hitler was occupying countries not being occuppied like Palestine

THE WAR IN SOMALIA

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Originally Posted by Doppleganger

The main reason for sticking him under a commander who understood armour was to reduce the inevitable friction that Rommel would produce if he was under the command of a more traditional commander like say Gunther von Kluge. Kluge was bad enough with Guderian's need to push forward and exploit breakthroughs - he'd have a fit trying to control Rommel who's ego, as Perseus said, was enormous and inflated. At least if Hoth, Hopner or Guderian were his commander they'd understand and appreciate Rommel's tactical reasoning and give him his head when it was appropriate. BTW, AGC was the most mechanised of the 3 army groups so he'd probably fit in best there.

Hehe for some strange reason I forgot about AGC although I was under the impression that by the 1942 offensives AGS was the more mechanised.

I cant in all honesty see him enjoying life with Guderian although I think he certainly would have fitted in well with Hoth

Originally Posted by Somalia

Bulldogg, I have never said anything about "occupation of Palestine"....let say I did, what is the problem with saying that? Am I distorting history?

Whether You like You like it or not Bulldogg history is history and it is a fact that Palestine is indeed occuppied. Are you denying that it is not? The whole world from the United States, EU, Russia, China and the whole UN recognizes that Palestine is occuppied? What do you call it not "occupation" would you perfer a more euphamistic word "borrowing".

Whether you deny it or not fact is fact. And if you think that makes me terrorist, it only shows how........you know what I won't even get into it with you, cuz you are only trying to goad me and provoke me.

You have something called Islamophobia, you believe any muslim that remotely speaks his/her mind and says something that doesn't fall into line with your thinking is a terrorist. Why am I not surprised that you would say such things.

So like my statement I have quoted on this post, what is wrong with saying Palestine is occuppied? Is it not? The whole world knows for fact Palestine is occuppied, are you denying that it is not? History is history and the occupation of Palestine is a fact, you may deny it or close your eyes to it but the truth always comes to light. And by me saying Palestine is occuppied makes me a terrorist? Just cuz I said something you don't want to open your eyes to and that I failed to fall in line with you ideas?

You are Islamophobic and it is just disturbs me to the extreme that their are people like you that misunderstand Muslims and draw prejudice on Islam, to the point that if a Muslim person speaks his mind he becomes a terrorist.

I just won't respond to you anymore. On my earlier post when I was speaking with Monty on a comparison and contrast on Rommel and Saddam you completely miscontrued my point and I don't know how you gotten your statement from what I was saying. Anyways their is no point in arguing with you.

Originally Posted by MontyB

Hehe for some strange reason I forgot about AGC although I was under the impression that by the 1942 offensives AGS was the more mechanised.

I cant in all honesty see him enjoying life with Guderian although I think he certainly would have fitted in well with Hoth

Well from 1942 the schwerpunkt of the German thrust switched to the south axis so AGS became the most mechanised army group.

Guderian and Rommel appear to have gotten on well. They had their disagreements about placement of panzer forces during D-Day but other than that they had some mutual respect for each other. For example, it was Rommel who suggested to Hitler that Guderian replace him as commander of DAK when Rommel went on sick leave, although I doubt Guderian would have accepted this appointment without some major commitment of fresh German forces from out of theatre. Arnim got the post instead of course.

Guderian was a charismatic leader who was able to get the best out of his men. I'm confident he and Rommel would have worked well together, so long as Guderian was in charge and not the other way around. Guderian was one of the few German commanders that Rommel seemed to have real respect for, given the fact that much of Rommel's command style and mobile tactics appear to have been copied wholesale from Guderian himself.

I have often wondered how Rommel would have gone in campaigns around the Ukraine which to me would have suited his style of armoured warfare.

Incidentally I have changed my mind about D-Day only preventing the French from speaking Russian as I believe the allied armies in Italy would have broken into France and Germany before the Russians got there. (not sure whether we have discussed this in this thread but I know it has been mentioned before).