Bring back Reagan...

Originally Posted by phoenix80

Bring back Reagan...

That'd be nice, but he's died. Sorry. May God bless his soul.

Originally Posted by MontyB

I do think you have over looked one small detail here and that is the Democratic party's impressive ability to take several suitable candidates and then choose the one with the least charisma and chance to be elected.
Like it or not voters of all nations tend to like their leaders to show signs of life while speaking.

True, but President Carter rode into Washington on the wings of discontent for the Republican Party, and rode out a mere 4 years later, losing to the "great communicator".

It's only a 4 year term after all, so, if the new President does not work out well, well just elect a new one.
The US Federal Government works best when the political pendulum swings back and forth, and the mid-terms were in my opinion no fluke or ballot counting mistake, as I believe the Country is moving away from the Republicans en masse, so I believe it will not matter who the Republicans put up for the office, as that person will carry all the sins of this current Administration with them. 'tis merely one of the many drawbacks of only having 2 major Party's to pick from.

Personally I look for this President to get himself Impeached, and could very well be removed before he leaves office at the regularly scheduled time.

True but opposing the War of 1812 was the death knell for the Federalist party... one can only hope for history to repeat itself with the Democrats and the GWOT.

Originally Posted by Gator

True, but President Carter rode into Washington on the wings of discontent for the Republican Party, and rode out a mere 4 years later, losing to the "great communicator".

It's only a 4 year term after all, so, if the new President does not work out well, well just elect a new one.
The US Federal Government works best when the political pendulum swings back and forth, and the mid-terms were in my opinion no fluke or ballot counting mistake, as I believe the Country is moving away from the Republicans en masse, so I believe it will not matter who the Republicans put up for the office, as that person will carry all the sins of this current Administration with them. 'tis merely one of the many drawbacks of only having 2 major Party's to pick from.

Personally I look for this President to get himself Impeached, and could very well be removed before he leaves office at the regularly scheduled time.

I would doubt that there will ever be a mass movement away from either party, in most cases you find that no matter how badly a government or party performs there is always a hardcore 25-30% support base (something that has always amused me is that a party could pretty much run a cardboard cutout and it would still get the hardcore vote Al Gore was a perfect example of this).


As far as GWB goes I would bet that he will serve out his time and disappear into obscurity or a bottle, it will be interesting to see how he rates once we have the benefit of hindsight (say 20-30 years). As far as impeachment goes I doubt it will happen as the democrats simply dont have the killer instinct to go after him.

MontyB

As far as GWB goes I would bet that he will serve out his time and disappear into obscurity or a bottle, it will be interesting to see how he rates once we have the benefit of hindsight (say 20-30 years). As far as impeachment goes I doubt it will happen as the democrats simply dont have the killer instinct to go after him.

I don't think you are going to need 20-30 years to judge GWB. That argument is true for a president that has a least a few positive accomplishments. Scientists are still trying to discover the thing W has NOT managed to totally screw up yet.

As for impeachment, there are a few reasons why the Dems wont follow impeachment. The grounds for impeachment are bountiful, lied to get us into War, illegal wiretapping, suppression of several constitutional rights, various forms of corruption, purjury (if he is ever made to testify), gross incompetance (Katrina), and now this prosecutor affair (obstruction of Justice). His goose is cooked.

So why wont the Dems prosecute? A couple of reasons. First they probably dont have the votes for a conviction. Second there isn't enough time, GWB is out of office in January 2009.

But the biggest reason the Dem's wont impeach Bush:

Bush is a Godsend to the Democrats who have their eye on the White House.

The entire Bush presidency is a train wreak, he has even made an enemy out of the the religious fanatics that elected him in the first place. The Dems are perfectly content to let this ship sink and take down every Republican 2008 candidate with it.

This is what sank the GOP in 2006, although they are loath to admit it.

As for having a 'warrior' for president. Historically presidents from career-military (not those who served, I am talking career military) backgrounds have not been the best presidents.

Eisenhower, and perhaps Polk, being the exceptions.

Originally Posted by MontyB

I would doubt that there will ever be a mass movement away from either party, in most cases you find that no matter how badly a government or party performs there is always a hardcore 25-30% support base (something that has always amused me is that a party could pretty much run a cardboard cutout and it would still get the hardcore vote Al Gore was a perfect example of this).


As far as GWB goes I would bet that he will serve out his time and disappear into obscurity or a bottle, it will be interesting to see how he rates once we have the benefit of hindsight (say 20-30 years). As far as impeachment goes I doubt it will happen as the democrats simply dont have the killer instinct to go after him.

Al Gore, as you call him, was the sitting Vice President of the United States of America at the time he was running for President of the United States of America, and why he got the nod..... and, the Vice President got more votes Nationally than Governor Bush on Election Day.
As far as Impeachment of President Bush, well he keeps pushing the US Congress aside and more Republicans in the Congress may become publicly upset with him, even though the Senate will most likely not have the votes for removal.
The current President is already being talked up in some circles as the worst President in US History, so, if there is a push to Impeach him, I believe it will be in his final year. Then the Democrats can use that to make any Republicans still protecting Bush look bad in the US Congress, as all the US House Seats will also be up for grabs in 2008.
Polls will no doubt need to be done to see how important Impeachment is to the US Public as a way to exact any public payment for sins committed while in office, and a lasting record of the US Publics grade on the performance of the President with regards to the Iraq War.
Impeachment in the US House is after all the way to punish a sitting President in his or her second term.

Soooooooooooooooo back to Mr Hunter... it might behoove our supporters of the jac...erm donkey to start a thread about their best candidate. But then its always easier to snipe than to build, just look at the media. So far the only criticism of the man has been that someone didn't know about him, I'd offer that that is a good thing in today's day and age. Real men, like real heroes, don't need to have their name in lights. They simply accept the job and get 'er done. I sincerely hope to call the man the CINC come January 2009.

I'm voting "None of the above"

His voting record in congress...

http://www.house.gov/hunter/

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/c...mbers/h000981/

http://www.ontheissues.org/CA/Duncan_Hunter.htm

His plans for Iraq...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17153370/

His character...

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/marotte/070601

On Israel...

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...234.shtml?s=lh

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...841.shtml?s=ic

On immigration...

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...8/102119.shtml