![]() | About President Hu and the Death Penalty Page 3 |
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Your humanity is overwhelming. With that logic we can justify many of history's atrocities and war crimes. "The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental." - John Steinbeck |
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Is it not true? If we worried about a select group of people instead of the nation as a whole, we would be nowhere(we as the United States). George Washington warned us against such things in his Farewell Address. Think about it, if we had worried about a particular section eg southern farmers against northern factories, instead of preserving the Union as a whole, we would have an entirely different history book...
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I whole-heartedly disagree with your logic. Were others to follow this line of thinking there would be no "Leave no man behind". We wouldn't send PJ's and CSARs in behind enemy lines to retrieve downed pilots, risking teams and helo's all for one man. Last edited by bulldogg; April 28th, 2006 at 03:42.. |
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OK. I guess sectionalism is alive and well in the United States and we can just put President Washington's views in the toilet...http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/04...organ_selling/ I realized I didnt have an article...By the way, it does say that the Chinese did recieve prior permission from the prisoners and only a few times were the organs acctually used. Who knows, the article also says that the latter is a lie...biased report? I dunno... |
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Permission at gun point is hardly voluntary. I will hunt up the SCMP article and scan it for you if the missus hasn't "reorganised" my pile at the house. The cat is out of the bag here and the CCP is scrambling to spin the story... I suggest reading with hip-waders on. |
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I can NOT believe the garbage I have been reading on this issue ... "the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few" ... this line has been used to excuse MORE out-and-out crimes against humanity than any other line in history. The sanctity of life has been the hallmark of an enlightened society since the first doctor placed the welfare of the patient above his own welfare. The fact that most Chinese have no "real" control over their own lives does NOT make it OK for the government to "decide" to harvest the organs of ANY prisoner that has NOT authorized the surgical removal after death. Anything else IS a crime against humanity no matter the twisted logic you use to excuse it. The population density has NO place in this decision nor does it excuse this practice. As a combat veteran, I place the highest value on human life and to imagine that a government can be so guilty of the slaughter and butchery of it's citizens just to harvest organs, is on a par with the experiments carried out against Jewish prisoners by the Nazis during the holocaust. Shame on you - I expected better of a group of civilized individuals. This IS NOT the dark ages. |
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Democracy and liberalism are the opposite than this "the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few"-kind of vision. Each and every single individual bears the right to be protected from the tyranny of the majority.
"Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it". Pericles. ![]() Last edited by Italian Guy; April 28th, 2006 at 10:08.. |
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Then why do we vote? If one President or the other will always recieve the majority vote, whats the point of voting? Majority rules is a popular concept in democracy.Its how we choose most of our officials. POTUS,Congress...basically our government is ran by the idea that the majority does rule...
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Of course. Majority rules, but minorities are protected and their interests not crushed by the government. Besides, life, freedoms and the habeas corpus are not subject to majority rule. In a liberaldemocratic country these are protected by the Constitution.
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