About Possiblity of a total nuke war during the cold war Page 9
|February 7th, 2011||#81|
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If Israel was using the West Bank (they left Gaza 3 years ago) then why are the building Jewish Settlements and kicking the locals out? Israel isn't just protecting its borders its trying to deliberately expanding them at the expense of the people already living there. Thats why they are called Jewish Settlers.
You talk about Hitler, but what Israel is doing is nothing short of practicing Lebensraum, exactly as the Nazis did to the Poles in 1939. The problem is that Israel still believes that peace is still obtainable by keeping all the land they stole 1967, and remember it WASN'T the Palestinians that attacked them in 1967, it was Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. I don't blame the Palestinians at all for fighting back, if it were my land I would fight too. And in terms of killing innocent civilians, if you actually look at the score the IDF kills about 10 times more Palestinian civilians that groups like Hamas and JI do.
You complain about Muslim extremists, but there are Jewish ones that are just as bad and just as violent. The radical Kahanist movement wanted to expel every Arab (including Christians) out of Israel and expand Israelis borders from the Sinaii River to the Red Sea, (they argue a return to the old Israelite empire before the Roman empire). Of course they mean using military force to obtain this objective. And worst of all, these people are the ones running the Israeli government right now...
Believe me, groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad are not the only religious crackpots in the area. Thats a two way street.
As for a Nuke, thats a very real possibility. The Worlds patience for Israels shinnanigans is running out, even in the USA people are beginning to see Israel isn't the "victim" it pretends to be. Israel is digging its own grave, you mark my words. Someday some crazy Arab is going to detonate a device in Tel-Aviv, unless Israel decides to change its ways that day is coming...
"My center is giving way, my right is in retreat situation excellent. I shall attack." -Foch
I am from NYC. I fly a French flag because I work in Paris.
|February 9th, 2011||#82|
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The possiblity would be next to nil
Both sides had various studies and research done, and both concluded that it would be insane. Judging that by that time, both had enough to send Earth to hell and back, neither would have won.
Also, everybody knows about the USSR having a backbone aim at the US through Cuba, but I would like to remind people that the US had a backbone aim at the USSR through nukes at Turkey, which probably triggered the USSR stationing nukes at Cuba
However, it's not an excuse for the USSR to have nukes in Cuba, nor for the US to have nukes in Turkey.
|May 23rd, 2011||#84|
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While the term "Lebensraum" is connected to the Nazi plan of expanding into the Slavic regions of eastern europe, we should not forget the annexation of Austria and Sudetenland, and off course the invasion of Checkoslovakia.
There was ethnic Germans living in the Sudeten-region, and that made a perfectly good excuse to annex Sudetenland to Germany, and since the prior "owners" of that region (Checks) wasn't too happy about that, they were deemed as a threath, and thus invaded in 1939, almost half a year before the Germans started to invade Poland.
If German settlers on foregin soil made an excuse for annexing and invading those territories, so would probably Jewish settlers on foreign soil, even more so if the local population of the said territory consists of a different culture/religion.
That is, if you follow the lines laid out in Mein Kampf..
And after looking at a few pages of Mein Kampf, it becomes pretty obvious that Hitler's writing would stand little chance of ever being awarded a Nobel price in litterature.
|June 10th, 2011||#85|
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|June 10th, 2011||#86|
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Re: Possiblity of a total nuke war during the cold war info
If the nuclear trigger was pulled even though the Soviet forces were smaller than the USA's forces, when all was said and done there would not be a lot left in the USA, the PRC and USSR. The USAF planned on making a wide corridor through the PRC, wiping out whatever they could and wreak havoc, then in the USSR hitting with a big blow coming from the southern border.
So in the first strikes the USA would have expanded the war from just the USA versus the USSR to include the PRC. The Soviets would have expanded the conflict into western Europe. The northern hemisphere would have been totally wrecked. The southern hemisphere would suffer from the radio-active fall-out, for it would have been massive. Destroying most large cities in the northern hemisphere.
There was a reason Gen. Curtis LeMay was so angry at President Kennedy for not using the Cuban missile crisis to start the war he knew the USA would win. (Win in what sense???) LeMay always felt a war between the USSR and USA was unavoidable.
As President Kennedy once said, "in nuclear war, the fruits of victory are ashes in the mouth!"
Last edited by AVON; June 10th, 2011 at 06:40..
|November 2nd, 2011||#88|
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I am 100% certain that M.A.D. ensured that the cold war didn't go hot. Although there were some scary moments.
What worries me, after the breakup of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact, what happened to all the nukes the Soviets had installed all over Eastern Europe?
Adversus solem ne loquitor
Last edited by BritinAfrica; November 2nd, 2011 at 08:49..
|November 3rd, 2011||#89|
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Errrmmm partisans?? it who knows apart from the base commanders? assuming that they themselves know...
|November 3rd, 2011||#90|
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