Topic: Possiblity of a total nuke war during the cold war 2

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November 15th, 2005   Post 11
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Originally Posted by phoenix80

Not a link, my friend

But I'd draw your attention to the latest Air & Space magazine article.

OR

check Eyeball to Eyeball, by Dino Bruigoni. He was a photo interpeter at NPIC during the U-2 days and beyond (He retired in 1988 IIRC), and was heavily involved in the Cuba crisis. Mr. Bruigoni wrote the book in '88, and had an updated version published in 1993. Much of the SAC info comes from his book and the Air and Space article.
Ah I cannot get Air & Space magazine over here, but that's OK. I'll go for the book. Thanks for the references
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November 23rd, 2005   Post 12
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BUT thats why we didnt have a nuke war, because both sides new the outcome.
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November 25th, 2005   Post 13
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The ADA was prepared for the bomber formations (if any got through the Navy and Air Force) but the ICBMs were a different problem altogether. A lot of warheads on both sides would not have worked but with hydrogen bombs, it wouldn't have taken a lot. A smaller uranium or plutonium bomb sets one off. The trigger device was about a 10 Kt so you can figure how much damage the big one could have done.
 
November 25th, 2005   Post 14
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The MAD defense... Mutually Assured Destruction.
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November 25th, 2005   Post 15
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I always like this site for explaining physics. It's pretty interesting to click on a bomb type and remove the layers to see how it works. Check out the Teller-Ulam fusion type.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/nuclear-bomb.htm

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November 25th, 2005   Post 16
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Damn you Missileer, that site is chock full of polysyllabillic wordsand facts and stuff! I am now going to be stuck in my cubicle for the next eight hours staring off into space pondering quarks and lithium deuterate.
 
November 25th, 2005   Post 17
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Damn you Missileer, that site is chock full of polysyllabillic wordsand facts and stuff! I am now going to be stuck in my cubicle for the next eight hours staring off into space pondering quarks and lithium deuterate.
Good, I know where you can find employ worthy of your intellect.
 
November 25th, 2005   Post 18
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cool site.
 
November 30th, 2005   Post 19
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Poland on has risked inflaming tensions with Russia when on Friday it released 1,700 highly sensitive Warsaw Pact files, including a war game exercise that envisaged massive nuclear destruction in western Europe and Poland, Financial Times reported.

The new conservative government in Warsaw wants Poland to deal more firmly with its communist past, and Friday’s opening of military files shows it is prepared to incur Moscow’s wrath and confront those Poles who worked closely with the Soviet Union.

Warsaw has already protested to Moscow over plans to build a new Russo-German gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea that bypasses Poland, and over Russian restrictions on Polish meat exports.

Radoslaw Sikorski, Poland’s defense minister, claimed the country had been “an unwilling ally of the Soviet Union in the cold war” and that being in the Warsaw Pact had put the country in mortal danger.

Sikorski published a map showing Soviet bloc forces planning a “counter-attack” against NATO forces, in which the Soviets would have dropped nuclear bombs along a line from the Dutch coast to Strasbourg, wiping out cities in Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany.

But the 1979 exercise also showed that Warsaw Pact planners believed such a conflict would have seen NATO target its nuclear bombs along the line of the Vistula river in Poland, to prevent Russian reinforcements reaching the front.

“The Polish army was being asked to take part in an invasion which could have resulted in a nuclear violation of our country,” Sikorsky said. “Poland is a country which would have been bombed out of existence.” He claimed two million Poles would have died in any conflict.

The military files handed over to Poland’s Institute of National Remembrance also included details of the 1968 Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia to crush the “Prague Spring”.

The release of the documents will reopen questions about the involvement of Polish communist-era politicians and soldiers in the Soviet-bloc alliance, 15 years after the country left the Warsaw Pact.

Poland agreed at that time never to release the Pact’s military files but Sikorski claims it never ratified the agreement. He also said Moscow was not alerted to the fact he intended to make the files public.

“We need to know our own history,” he told journalists in Warsaw. “It’s important for a democracy to know who was the hero and who was the villain. A morality tale has to be told.”
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/11/...andfiles.shtml
 
December 4th, 2005   Post 20
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calm down,
and think by some parts.
Situation>1964.CCCP decided to shoot all Nuke missile.
Target>all city&base of US,UK,France,Chine and all important base of US in foreign.
The direct dead by destruction of city&indirectly death by destruction of infrastructure&fall out,starvation,Riot,Freezing to death,
Half people might die(or more?)and go into civil war?
..........some one may against,
However, collapse of the United States is thought enough when
logically thinking.