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September 2nd, 2007   Post 51
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I DO NOT GIVE A GOOD GOD DAMN ABOUT PEOPLE RESPECTING ME.

Is reading comprehension such a dying ****ing art that somehow the readers on this ****ing board are unable to see the post is about what I GIVE not what I WANT or think I deserve or any other b******t... jesus mary and joseph... its about WHO I RESPECT. I don't care if anyone else agrees with me. I'm simply explaining my post to our French-American who got his panties in a twist because the chip on his shoulder made him misconstrue my original comment without ever asking me my intent who posted what my intent was... amazing a real life Hero from the TV show who can read minds. WOW.

You people are dense.

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In the interest in enhancing understanding I offer the following illustrations of my worldview because I acknowledge that my employment of communicative economy is perhaps the source of many of you not getting what I am saying. The following are rhetorical (STFU and think questions)...

All things being equal who do you respect more?

You drop into McD's and behind the counter you see two old high school friends. One went into the service and the other to college both are trying to find better work. You happen to be in a position to offer one of them a job. They are both equally qualified for the position. Who do you give it to?

A group of homeless people die from exposure. During the investigation it is discovered one of them is a veteran. In all other ways the deceased are equal. To whom do you feel was visited the greater injustice?

You are sitting on the subway and two elderly men enter the car. There are no other seats. You notice the men are equal in all ways but one, one of the men is wearing a VFW pin. To whom do you offer your seat?

Further to this discussion I would add all people are NOT created equal. Its nice to think that we are but the reality is quite different. Look around you and think. Do you have the same athletic ability as Michael Jordan, Jim Kelly or Carl Lewis? Can you understand quantum mechanics? Are you able to remember millions of sequences of binary code? Can you compose a symphony equal to that of Mozart or Bach? Humans are not equal.

We should be equal before the law and that is where it ends. If this is not so why do we have "qualifications" when hiring an employee or accepting a university student? Discrimination is a natural and necessary part of life. When I determine that in all other ways people are equal but one is a veteran I afford them more respect.

I respect the judgement of a manager who is a veteran and has the equal training and experience of another manager who never served. That is MY choice and how I was raised. I have thought this way from before I served. I learned it from my grandparents and have found it has merit as a way to deal with people in this world.

It is a meritocratical view of people. Veterans have proved their worth in my eyes. Young children and teenagers likewise have not proven anything. Regardless of how much they are told they are special and they have rights and they are "equal". Prove yourself and I will give you all the respect you have earned. That coupled with a dollar will buy you a cup of coffee at Denny's.

Why do you care what I think anyway?
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September 2nd, 2007   Post 52
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September 2nd, 2007   Post 53
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Oh yeah, that's the spot, a little to the left... aaaaaaaaaaaahhh.
 
September 2nd, 2007   Post 54
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i got someplace else to put that stick...
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September 2nd, 2007   Post 55
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Man this is ugly. Guys, let's not take too much of this so seriously. After all, what does anything in this forum change in the world? Just about nothing. It doesn't feed you, doesn't clothe you and certainly doesn't make the world a safer place.
Bulldogg was simply stating his own view on who he chooses to respect. This does not affect anyone (mmarsh included) in any way so I'm surprised at how this discussion went. Mmarsh, when you go on with your outbursts like that about how he views civilians who have never served at some point, it tells us more about you than it does about him. If you are certain enough that this is not a necessary measure of one's worth, then you really have no reason to be so angry.
As for people being angry at things that people who oppose the war in Iraq say, that's the way they see the world. It's not like they're absolutely wrong on all fronts: War is a terrible thing. We should avoid it if possible. The reason that the Bush administration sold the war to the public in the first place was WMDs but they are yet to be found, probably because they're not there. So they do have a strong point. Also, I think it's important to listen to opinions that are contrary to our own and give it some thought. If you can get anything out of a forum like this, perhaps it's to hear what people disagree with you say, evaluate it against your own beliefs and broaden your range of lenses in which you see the world.
Also, every now and then, the very things in which we believe in need to be questioned by no one other than ourselves. It's necessary to ensure that one is not walking down the wrong path.
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September 2nd, 2007   Post 56
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So I suppose it's better that poor people die and that there is genocide, I mean really theyre just pointless people who deserve to die because they're not serving their country, they deserve to be hacked up with machetes. It's better this way, so they decrease the surplus population.
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