Topic: the Patriot Act

Doody · November 7th, 2004

Here is the full text version of the Patriot Act.
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html

Here is a decent independent analysis of the bill
http://slate.msn.com/id/2087984/#ContinueArticle

Do you support the Patriot Act?

USAOwnz · November 7th, 2004

Not like I am going to do anything that would make them use the Patriot Act against me.

Doody · November 7th, 2004

I will support it if changes are made. I did a quick scan of the full text version of the bill. THere is a lot in there about coordinating between government agencies.

The one thing I am totally against in that bill is the way the government can search your home and monitor your phones with ease. Some one called it the "sneak and peak" warrant. The Forefathers of the USA specifically addressed the issue in the Bill of Rights.

Amendment IV
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Darkmb101 · November 8th, 2004

its an invasion of privacy and personal rights, but at the time of the bill's legislation, nobody really cared. The Patriot Act should be redifined.

GuyontheRight · November 8th, 2004

I have nothing to hide, I personally do not care about such "civil rights". I choose living over the quality of living. Such "rights", In this world we live In, are a privledge.

SAINT · November 9th, 2004

Hi pal.. glad you're back. Seems that you've gone away for a long time, right?

Italian Guy · November 9th, 2004

Three times has the US restricted cibil rights, and three times have they been restored as the emergency was over.

View Poll Results :Do you support the Patriot Act?
Yes	5	45.45%
no	2	18.18%
only if changes are made	4	36.36%
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November 7th, 2004	Post 1
Doody Milforum Moderator	Post; the Patriot Act Here is the full text version of the Patriot Act. http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html Here is a decent independent analysis of the bill http://slate.msn.com/id/2087984/#ContinueArticle Do you support the Patriot Act? __________________ "The best form of taking care of troops is first-class training, for this saves unnecessary casualties." Erwin Rommel

November 7th, 2004	Post 2
USAOwnz Optio	Not like I am going to do anything that would make them use the Patriot Act against me. __________________ Squirrelly Wrath! \|Congratualations Mr. President!\|Raven\'s Realm\|

November 8th, 2004	Post 4
Darkmb101 Tribunus Laticlavius	its an invasion of privacy and personal rights, but at the time of the bill's legislation, nobody really cared. The Patriot Act should be redifined. __________________ on a permanent vacation....will visit every now and then. see arcade hidden message!!! Life is short and pointless, be happy and live it.

November 8th, 2004	Post 5
GuyontheRight Tribuni Angusticlavii	I have nothing to hide, I personally do not care about such "civil rights". I choose living over the quality of living. Such "rights", In this world we live In, are a privledge. __________________ No Voice

November 7th, 2004	Post 3
Doody Milforum Moderator	I will support it if changes are made. I did a quick scan of the full text version of the bill. THere is a lot in there about coordinating between government agencies. The one thing I am totally against in that bill is the way the government can search your home and monitor your phones with ease. Some one called it the "sneak and peak" warrant. The Forefathers of the USA specifically addressed the issue in the Bill of Rights. Amendment IV "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

November 9th, 2004	Post 6
SAINT Centurion	Hi pal.. glad you're back. Seems that you've gone away for a long time, right? __________________ WHY IN THE WORLD DO WE NEED TO FIGHT SO OFTEN? HAVE WE FORGOTTEN THE BABIES?

November 9th, 2004	Post 7
Italian Guy Legatus Legionis Gear	Three times has the US restricted cibil rights, and three times have they been restored as the emergency was over. __________________ "Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it". Pericles.

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