Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

Screw that. Just put in another dictator.

That'll work about as well as the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

What i'm afraid of is the Pakistani government falling into disarray, in similar fashion to the end of the communist regimes in the late 1980s-early 1990s (i.e. Yugoslavia) where the nation throws itself into a civil war. Then, there will be nothing stopping Iran from just waltzing right in. The US won't be able to intervene because they will still be tied up in Iraq preventing Iran from entering there. And I am truly afraid of a cuckoo such as Ahmenijihad with a big bomb. I also don't trust the Taliban, or the fundamentalists, or any of the other potential takers over. And, as Del Boy points out, the Pakistanis like the Americans about as much as the Iranians do-- we've propped up their puppet dicator for years.

But the big question: How do we get the bomb out of there?

Originally Posted by Del Boy

Why don't you stop sitting on the fence?

I'm open to suggestion.
If you give me an argument and back it up, like the one about Obama not saluting the flag, well and good, I'll agree with you.
If you can't give me anything I can buy and someone who actually DISAGREES with me initially gives a pretty good argument, I'll buy that person's argument.
This what we have here are discussions, not office politics. I understand that in the "real world" in most cases you'll just have to pick a side and stick with it. Here, I want to see who is more right and who is less wrong.
And Del Boy, on most things we tend to stand on the same side of the line, it should be easier for you to convince me on most ideas than it would take mmarsh, who I in many more cases, disagree.
What I don't like are stubborn people who won't change their minds no matter how obviously wrong they are.

Originally Posted by The Other Guy

But the big question: How do we get the bomb out of there?

Plant remote trigger. Let terrorists get their hands on it. Blow it up. Say they screwed up and blew it up prematurely.
Too much "24"

can we get the trigger there though?

Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

I'm open to suggestion.
If you give me an argument and back it up, like the one about Obama not saluting the flag, well and good, I'll agree with you.
If you can't give me anything I can buy and someone who actually DISAGREES with me initially gives a pretty good argument, I'll buy that person's argument.

Sorry Redneck - I was not making a serious point, just having a joke at your positive take. No disapproval intended!
I did put the smiley up.!

As it happens, they always seem to end up with dictators in any case, of all political colours. They do seem to love a big powerful Sadaam!

Originally Posted by The Other Guy

can we get the trigger there though?

Pack my sneaking suit and my silenced .45. This one might get a little ugly...

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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

Screw that. Just put in another dictator.

Wow, I must have missed the part of freedom for all, justice, equality etc. As far as I know these aren't the prime character traits of dictatorship. What is the US fighting for again in that part of the world again?

Not sure, but we must really want it and there must be a lot of it there...

I wonder what it could be...

Originally Posted by Ted

Wow, I must have missed the part of freedom for all, justice, equality etc. As far as I know these aren't the prime character traits of dictatorship. What is the US fighting for again in that part of the world again?

I give up. What's the answer?

Originally Posted by Del Boy

I give up. What's the answer?

Sorry mate, I wish I had the answer. I hope I didn't lead you to believe I knew the answer, merely that I can't follow the train of thought. Democracy and dictators don't go together well. Since some claim the US is bringing the first and don't understand the latter....

But if you want to know what I suspect as being the answer I'd say something geopolitical or energy resources-like... But that is just my tuppence worth.