Topic: Operation Phantom Fury, The Attack on Fallujah 3

Kane · November 10th, 2004

Well said. In terms of experience, these Terrorists or Insurgents don't fight like the V.C. or the NVA.

And heck yeah, we learned a lot from the Tet Offensive and Somalia. But, again there are new challenges and I think we are unprepared for this...guard duty. No matter what, this is war is questionable from the start.

DTop · November 10th, 2004

If that's what you truly believe, then you're entitled to your opinion but I must respectfully disagree.

godofthunder9010 · November 10th, 2004

I'm not about to say that I know HOW it should be done, but Fallujah is a problem that must be solved if there is to be any hope of stability for the future of Iraq. You can criticize how its done, say this or that against opperations, but that's one fact I can't think of anyone disagreeing with. Fallujah must be stabilized.

As far as the USA "misreporting" ... well, it may take awhile to confirm and reconfirm things, but they're generally going to be pretty straightforward eventually.

Doppleganger · November 10th, 2004

It's been said that the leaders of the insurgents have already melted away. They will probably resurface in another town and begin their 'activities' all over again. It's going to take a while before this civil unrest dies away I'm afraid.

the_13th_redneck · November 10th, 2004

If anything their ability to operate is disturbed and in some ways destroyed when they get uprooted.
They have to start creating their security network from scratch. They may have lost key stuff while moving.
Higher risk of people ratting on them.
etc.

FlyingFrog · November 10th, 2004

quite some injuries

Hegario · November 10th, 2004

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3997461.stm

This isn't good at all.

Chocobo_Blitzer · November 11th, 2004

It's common sense they would hussle to another city, but why was there no plan for countering it? Afterall, key rule of war is to never let your enemy escape.

But then, i'm not the hotshot at CENTCOM.

Not to downplay the Fallujah mission, it's still importaint, but it makes one curious.

the_13th_redneck · November 11th, 2004

Probably because they don't know where they're going.

Chocobo_Blitzer · November 11th, 2004

That's true, I guess it boils down to one thing: not enough troopers

but you can't bring more in, bad public perception by the US, world, Iraqi's, etc. As if we were losing so "send more"

November 10th, 2004	Post 21
Kane Centurion	Well said. In terms of experience, these Terrorists or Insurgents don't fight like the V.C. or the NVA. And heck yeah, we learned a lot from the Tet Offensive and Somalia. But, again there are new challenges and I think we are unprepared for this...guard duty. No matter what, this is war is questionable from the start. __________________ \"When you kill one, it is a tragedy. When you kill ten million, it is a statistic.\" - Joseph Stalin

November 10th, 2004	Post 22
DTop Milforum Moderator Gear	If that's what you truly believe, then you're entitled to your opinion but I must respectfully disagree. __________________ *"I was a soldier, I am a soldier, I always will be a soldier."*

November 10th, 2004	Post 23
godofthunder9010 Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	I'm not about to say that I know HOW it should be done, but Fallujah is a problem that must be solved if there is to be any hope of stability for the future of Iraq. You can criticize how its done, say this or that against opperations, but that's one fact I can't think of anyone disagreeing with. Fallujah must be stabilized. As far as the USA "misreporting" ... well, it may take awhile to confirm and reconfirm things, but they're generally going to be pretty straightforward eventually. __________________ "It is well that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it." - General Robert E. Lee Warning, critical pebkac error in the iD10t!! pebkac\wtflolurpwnzd\snafuroflmao.exe called iD10t, iD10t failed to respond!! System in danger!! "It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man." -Chevy Chase

November 10th, 2004	Post 24
Doppleganger Tribuni Angusticlavii	It's been said that the leaders of the insurgents have already melted away. They will probably resurface in another town and begin their 'activities' all over again. It's going to take a while before this civil unrest dies away I'm afraid. __________________ "An Emperor is subject to no-one but God and justice." Frederick 1, Barbarossa

November 10th, 2004	Post 25
the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	If anything their ability to operate is disturbed and in some ways destroyed when they get uprooted. They have to start creating their security network from scratch. They may have lost key stuff while moving. Higher risk of people ratting on them. etc. __________________ I don't exist. TRESPASSERS WILL BE PROSTITUTED Next time you travel http://www.epictrip.com

November 10th, 2004	Post 26
FlyingFrog Tribuni Angusticlavii	quite some injuries __________________ From Corporals to Generals. Rising Dragons of Middle Kingdom. http://s3.invisionfree.com/PLA_MILIT...TURE/index.php

November 10th, 2004	Post 27
Hegario Optio	http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3997461.stm This isn't good at all.

November 11th, 2004	Post 28
Chocobo_Blitzer Primus Pilus	It's common sense they would hussle to another city, but why was there no plan for countering it? Afterall, key rule of war is to never let your enemy escape. But then, i'm not the hotshot at CENTCOM. Not to downplay the Fallujah mission, it's still importaint, but it makes one curious. __________________ \"The superior man, when resting in safety, does not forget that danger may come. When in a state of security he does not forget the possibility of ruin. When all is orderly, he does not forget that disorder may come. Thus his person is not endangered, and his States and all their clans are preserved.\"

November 11th, 2004	Post 29
the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	Probably because they don't know where they're going.

November 11th, 2004	Post 30
Chocobo_Blitzer Primus Pilus	That's true, I guess it boils down to one thing: not enough troopers but you can't bring more in, bad public perception by the US, world, Iraqi's, etc. As if we were losing so "send more"