Originally Posted by Chyllaxen

With iran the Ayatollah's followers are just that crazy...so all we can do is put a Quran on a string and drag it through Tehran..... Thanks for comming out, (alittle boondock saints reference for ya)

Hehe that reference has left a mental image that cracks me up everytime I think about it.

So a war anywhere in the world now MUST be a special ops war....the days of the phalanx and great naval battles are over....there is no way in hell the U.S. can stand up to the power of North Korea.....so jsut like in Iran....it will be fought in the shadows

I am not so sure about this for one conventional wars will still be fought and I really dont think North Korea is the threat its made out to be although I have little doubt a nuclear armed North Korea is a very worrying prospect I am almost convinced half the country would surrender for a loaf of bread.

Right now with all those rules and PC stuff going on, a squad of 12 year olds armed with Uzis would be a hard opponent.

Iran with nuclear is not avoidable judging from their will to N-pow plants.
But,is it thinkable n-armed iran?
I don't think n-armed is so easy for them even they were supported by north korea and pakistan.
N-armed Iran is still wobbly truth　and USA must not　handle expensive war risk with iran.

Well, a conventional war with North Korea would be an error in judgement considering the 950,000 troops they have compaired to our 477,800, we many have out technologie, but Kim jung-il has the men to throw in front of our machine guns, The Ayatollah in Iran, has zero regard for his people, he could give a less.

Hell Sistani, is to busy running his web site www.sistani.org , anouncing that its ok to do you wife in the butt with her permission, but you cant shake her hand.... and CHess...... Unlawfull.....Thats Crazy....But still the Shia of Iran, will do what there told by blowing up Americans.

Afganistan is a good example of a war fought in the shadows, look at the number of special forces Troops in country before the invasion.

And look how well it went, too.

The assult went fine, Bush made the mistake of pulling all the troopes out, the problem wiht everything now us we did our convetional take downa nd now the U.S is trying to do a little occupation. Same with Iraq, his tactics are flawed.

Fine for us, not so hot for the thousands of Afghani civilians who got bombed into oblivion.

Its called war and it takes two parties to tango. People, innocent people, die and to lay the blame on only one party to a conflict is myopic.

THe lozer gets blamed for starting it and the winner (USA) gets blaimed for the countless deaths.....Its the status quo

Originally Posted by I Love Guns

Fine for us, not so hot for the thousands of Afghani civilians who got bombed into oblivion.

Not so hot for the thousands of civilians that was persecuted by the Taleban either, or the women in country that could neither get an education and/or walk beside their husbands rather then behind, and/or the several hundreds who stepped on a landmine/year before ISAF forces started to clear them....Or how about the people that had a diffrent opinion on leadership,religion and/or education then the Taleban....

Fact 1. In war people die.
Fact 2. The alliance and/or ISAF have gone to great length to avoid civilian losses/collateral damage even when own troops have been in a bit of a jam.
Fact 3. The ISAF forces in country now have very clear rules of engagement set by the UN mandate of the operation.
It is a chapter 7 mandate.
Fact 4. You throwing out such a statement like the one I qouted above sits rather bad with atleast myself, and I am guessing with alot of people that have been deployed to Afghanistan.
People actually risk their life to make life alittle better for the afghani people.
Think about it for a second.

My OPINION is this.
To qoute some smart man I read something from once.
"Better to keep quiet and look like an idiot then to open your mouth and eliminate all doubt."

Have a very SF day.