Originally Posted by bulldogg

Feel better now?

Smell that? I love the smell of napalm in the morning!

Originally Posted by Italian Guy

Oh I've been there, I know. I'm also trying to keep myself updated about the sharia/legal cases thing which has been going on in Canada, you sure know what I'm talking about.

OH, Yes. Thanks to the efforts of an Iranian woman "Homa Arjomand" who led a campaign against the Sharia. The provincial government of Ontario dropped its bid on the matter.

Yeah right, very good.

Bulldog .....you said that France is very tough on illegal immigration, well it is rather between a rock and a hard place, for once these immigrants have managed to get into Europe then there are not any further border checks except for Britain

I didn't say it, I was saying they should be. I hadn't thought about the lack of border checks once you get into Europe. My travels have been limited to Asia thusfar.

Originally Posted by LeEnfield 2

Bulldog .....you said that France is very tough on illegal immigration, well it is rather between a rock and a hard place, for once these immigrants have managed to get into Europe then there are not any further border checks except for Britain

LeEnfield

Unlike most countries, the French police can actually demand to see your papers without "probable cause". Basically this means they can stop you anytime and for any reason and demand ID. If you are found to be in the country illegal they can deport you within 48-72 hours. And to be honest, the police do use racial profiling. Meaning if you are of African or Arabic descent they will stop you. This is why illegal immigrants and terrorists generally stay away from France. Its too risky.

Well the same goes for Holland. It's true that we haven't got any official borderchecks, unlike before 1992.
But since the 1st of Januari 2005 everybody older then 14 most be able to identify themselves when police, security personal or medical personal asks for it. Almost everything is "probable cause" and I have quite a few students that are fined already.

The law allows for more and more means to make Holland a "secure" place. A few days back the cops arrested two moslim guys in a train, wearing their traditional clothes and carrying backpacks. They were released a few houres later, with an apology. You can imagine that this takes some getting used to.

Originally Posted by mmarsh

This is why illegal immigrants and terrorists generally stay away from France. Its too risky.

You should specify "Islamist" terrorists, because France has been known as a safe haven for Italian communist terrorists for decades. Just dotting the i's.

This is what you get after decades of left-wing, politically correct policies.

Now some of them (not all) are starting to realize this wasn't such a good idea after all.

Just because it feels good to want to have a multi-cultural society like they imagined, doesn't mean it is good, or if it even works. Shooting heroin up your arm sure feels good, but doesn't mean it is good.

The problem with these left wingers is that they live in a fantasy, and refuse to sometimes look at realistic possibilties of what might go wrong, in the end you will pay the price.

They should have had tougher measures of imigration from the begining, not necesarily stopping Muslim immigrants, but just limiting to nesacery levels. There were of course those politicians who favored this and warned about what would happen, but no one listen to them, they were drowned out and painted as racist. If you say one bad thing about Muslim immigration in Europe you are a racist.

This is the begining of the end for Europe.