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June 20th, 2008   Post 1
errol
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Post; Was it oil all along?


It makes you wonder doesn't it?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/wo...ll&oref=slogin
 
June 20th, 2008   Post 2
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Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say it was all over oil, but I would say that if Iraq had no oil we wouldn't have invaded.
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June 20th, 2008   Post 3
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If we invaded Iraq for Oil then why the hell are prices super high?
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June 20th, 2008   Post 4
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To be honest, "Because we fooked up" pure and simple, now it's all blown up in our face.

It's not nice, but it's a lot closer to the truth than we'll ever hear from those who pushed this war. Wars always push up the price of oil, even more so when they are disrupting the flow from the country where the war is being fought.

As much as the Saudi's are supposed to be our friends, they along with the other OPEC countries ar not going to miss a marketing opportunity like this.

There are far worse atrocities going on in the world than Saddam and his little games, but have we invaded them??
 
June 20th, 2008   Post 5
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I totally agree with you seno!
 
June 20th, 2008   Post 6
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The country's a mess, it's hard to get oil out of there and oil demand is sky high plus OPEC and the lot are cashing in while they still can.

That's why.

And plus, the Saudis were never really our friends. We are just a customer they like to keep reasonably happy. Also without America's support, Al Qaeda and the like will have them hanging from meat hooks before they can say "turban."
Or if they catch the last flights out, basking in their wealth in London while the rest of their population is in poverty
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June 20th, 2008   Post 7
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Was it ALL about oil. No way. There was pride involved too.
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June 20th, 2008   Post 8
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*sigh*. Go back..go back..go back. I am sure it was televised alot, hell there was even a huge countdown to the second. The main focus before the start of the war with Iraq was that Saddam would not let the UN Inspectors have unlimted access like they should have had. Kept kicking them out, kept limiting their movement. kept restricting visit times to certain places etc etc. The POTUS got tired of it and issued an ultimatum: Let them in or the US let's them in. In my humble opinion the rest is history.

I don't care what the newsmongers and naysayers and poo flingers say. This war was started on pride and principle, a willingness to stick to your guns so to speak. Iraq walked all over the UN (and by proxy the US)for 10 years or so (since the Gulf War) where weapons inspections are concerned. Look at all the embargoes and sanctions and BS that had no effect on the Iraqi government.

I am sick and tired of hearing people focus on the "War for Oil" and "It was all a sham we were lied to" bullcrap. Get real and look back at your history and the basic primal origins of this war at least a 6 months to a year BEFORE all the headlines came out.

Flame on. My mind is firmly set in this belief and will not be changed.
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June 20th, 2008   Post 9
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Actually this is very true.
It was about WMDs, UN inspectors etc. There were apparently no WMDs but the fact is that the UN was denied inspection which made most people at the time believe there were in fact WMDs. Also, the fact that the UN didn't care about its own resolutions...
It's almost like the whole oil thing was one of those lies if repeated often enough becomes a truth.
Like I said, the war started after a lot of parties on all sides messed up pretty badly.
Was oil part of it? No doubt. Large oil businesses would have been stupid not to have tried to get a piece of the oil when the country was stabilized but that it was the main motivation is primarily a conspiracy theory for now.
 
June 20th, 2008   Post 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marinerhodes
*sigh*. Go back..go back..go back. I am sure it was televised alot, hell there was even a huge countdown to the second. The main focus before the start of the war with Iraq was that Saddam would not let the UN Inspectors have unlimted access like they should have had. Kept kicking them out, kept limiting their movement. kept restricting visit times to certain places etc etc. The POTUS got tired of it and issued an ultimatum: Let them in or the US let's them in. In my humble opinion the rest is history.

I don't care what the newsmongers and naysayers and poo flingers say. This war was started on pride and principle, a willingness to stick to your guns so to speak. Iraq walked all over the UN (and by proxy the US)for 10 years or so (since the Gulf War) where weapons inspections are concerned. Look at all the embargoes and sanctions and BS that had no effect on the Iraqi government.

I am sick and tired of hearing people focus on the "War for Oil" and "It was all a sham we were lied to" bullcrap. Get real and look back at your history and the basic primal origins of this war at least a 6 months to a year BEFORE all the headlines came out.

Flame on. My mind is firmly set in this belief and will not be changed.
If you are right, then why didn't we invade North Korea?? They've had ten times the chances, and spat in our face every time, and they actually HAVE developed a Nuke and demonstrated the fact to the world (p!ss poor though it may be)

They are playing ball at the moment because without the US investment the country was about to implode. Give them some time,... and when it suits them, they'll do it again.

Yes, Iraq was an embarrassment,.. but little else, you don't invade a sovereign nation just because they embarrass you. There was no danger and our governments knew it.

David Kelly exposed that fact years ago, and ended up committing suicide because of it. Not to mention the fact that despite five years of the most vigorous searches of all known sites and documents, nothing has ever been found that even smells of WMD, well, not since Chemical Ali's attack on the Kurds in the 1980s

Last edited by senojekips; June 20th, 2008 at 15:10.
 



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