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August 13th, 2006   Post 1
Rabs
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Post; Oh boy, next time they have a natural disaster....


Next time they have a earthquake they can rot.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7...0500020000.htm

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oney sent to Pakistan for quake rehabilitation was used to fund the Heathrow bomb attack plot that was foiled by British authorities, says an investigation by a leading Pakistani daily.According to the Daily Times, the Muslim Charity of UK remitted a huge amount of money to three individuals in three different bank accounts in Mirpur, Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) in December 2005 as earthquake relief.
But the money in the three accounts in Saudi Pak Bank, Standard Chartered and Habib Bank Ltd was solely for the purpose of financing the foiled bomb plot, the paper said.
According to the report, two of the recipients are British citizens of Kashmir origin while the third is an Islamabad-based builder, also of Kashmir origin.
Officials said that all three have been arrested, but it is still not known whether the three had any links to militant organisations such as the Al-Qaeda or Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT).
An official said that UK National Terrorist Financial Investigation Unit authorities asked them to carry out 'discreet enquiries' about large sums of money being transferred by charities to accounts in Pakistan.
Following the tip off, the three were arrested. Interrogation of the suspects revealed some key elements of the aircraft bombing plan. It was then that Pakistani officials informed British authorities about the plan and the terror attempt was successfully foiled, said an official.
"Had we been even slightly complacent, the perpetrators of this plot might have been able to carry out their operations without little or no problem in the UK," the paper quoted a senior government official, privy to the inquiry, as saying.
The official said NTFIU had told them that a huge amount of money had been transferred from Britain to PoK for quake relief efforts two months after the quake.
"Neither the amount nor the purpose for which money was sent caused any concern in the British investigation unit. What raised alarm among British sleuths specialising in finances was the fact that the entire money was remitted to three individuals, not to any organisation or organisations involved in the relief work," he said.
"The entire transaction was in Pound Sterling. It was a huge amount. Had it not gone into the accounts of individuals, nobody would have been bothered," he added.
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August 16th, 2006   Post 2
Marinerhodes
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Lovely. Isn't it nice to know that when you try to help and show goodwill you get stabbed in the back?

Let's let everyone take an isolationist stand and tell the rest of the world to go get screwed. Then we will see who comes out on top.

I guarantee that if many of the countries stopped a majority of their imports and exports that life would get hard for those countries that depend chiefly on the import/export monies.
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August 16th, 2006   Post 3
Team Infidel
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oh hell, folks were skimming with Katrina relief money as well.
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August 18th, 2006   Post 4
flanker
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Post; Wow hold on


It was just Indian propoganda as expected

http://www.dawn.com/2006/08/16/top2.htm

atleast i am happy that my donation would have saved a childs life.

and as far as isolating those countries . i think u forgot where we get our oil from. Isolating almost a third of mankind wont be that easy
American exports to those countries are much much more than imports from these countries.

lets keep to the facts and not get on the band wagon
 
August 18th, 2006   Post 5
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Originally Posted by flanker
It was just Indian propoganda as expected

http://www.dawn.com/2006/08/16/top2.htm

atleast i am happy that my donation would have saved a childs life.

and as far as isolating those countries . i think u forgot where we get our oil from. Isolating almost a third of mankind wont be that easy
American exports to those countries are much much more than imports from these countries.

lets keep to the facts and not get on the band wagon
I think you forgot where we get our oil from....

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/p...nt/import.html

I also think you forgot where most countries get their refined fuels from
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August 18th, 2006   Post 6
flanker
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What is your point?

A third of crude oil and a quarter of refined oil suppliers to USA are muslim countries.
 
August 18th, 2006   Post 7
Donkey
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Originally Posted by flanker
What is your point?

A third of crude oil and a quarter of refined oil suppliers to USA are muslim countries.
My point is the majority of refinement is done in western countries...

Now let's also realize that that is starting to shift because of environmental laws in western countries halting the construction of new refineries...Needless to say that the technology the Middle Eastern oil companies use is primarly from western oil companies....

Basically your lets stick to the facts statement is a good one that you should follow....

BTW only 4 of the top 15 Oil exporting countries to the USA are from the Middle East....

So let's stick to the facts and not jump on the bandwagons shall we....

Last edited by Donkey; August 18th, 2006 at 21:24.
 
August 19th, 2006   Post 8
flanker
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As i said earlier a THIRD of our crude oil comes from muslim countries. dosent matter if they make up 1 out of 15 or 14 out of 15.

New laws might change the situation in the future but that will take a long time, but until than like it or not we are dependant on their oil.

We need them as much as they need us , so i am afraid embargo will not work.
 
August 19th, 2006   Post 9
Donkey
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Originally Posted by flanker
As i said earlier a THIRD of our crude oil comes from muslim countries. dosent matter if they make up 1 out of 15 or 14 out of 15.

New laws might change the situation in the future but that will take a long time, but until than like it or not we are dependant on their oil.

We need them as much as they need us , so i am afraid embargo will not work.
Again where do you get this figure of a THIRD from?????

Things will change a lot especially in the near future with the Exxon/Mobile and BP offshore oil rigs off of the Russian Siberia....
The expansion in the Gulf of Mexico and so on...

Check out the daily production of Crude Oil in the world....
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications...elds/2176.html

Last edited by Donkey; August 19th, 2006 at 01:47.
 
August 21st, 2006   Post 10
flanker
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If you do a bit of maths you on june 2006 figures will find out my ''THIRD''. From your own link
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/p...nt/import.html


And we will talk about your near future when its a reality, until than my THIRD figure is correct . prove me wrong and i will return my degree




 



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