Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

Yes I too prefer it when the annoying folks aren't there.

Show me one without the annoying ones. Maybe its different elsewhere, but here, the churches all either want your money, or else they dam the church down the street for fun on Sundays. I'm serious about this too, I refuse to go to a church when each church, same religion or not, dams the other churches because their not in the same building.
I have nothing against religion, I just don't believe it should be allowed in large numbers.
As for Obamas church, I'm finished with my research, thats a prime example of why I don't go to church.

Any church is void of the annoying ones when it is empty. Go when it's empty.

Never thought of that.

Sit quietly at the back of an empty church and just meditate a little on your concerns etc. A few minutes well spent I reckon.

My concerns don't have anything to do with religion trust me.

No Wolfen, I didn't suggest they were. We all have concerns. Also - I didn't intend that as an instruction, I was just trying to describe the experience.

As it happens, I personally have negative concerns at the moment re. some religions, I have to say. But that would not enter my head in the situation I retold.

The annoying folks at Churches that use it as a platform to give them power otherwise unattainable... the ones that use faith to try to get you to trust them while they are running a scam.
I know what you mean.

You got it. Little power agendas - not at all conducive to quiet reflection!

Originally Posted by Del Boy

No Wolfen, I didn't suggest they were. We all have concerns. Also - I didn't intend that as an instruction, I was just trying to describe the experience.

As it happens, I personally have negative concerns at the moment re. some religions, I have to say. But that would not enter my head in the situation I retold.

I know I will take that under consideration to do though

Most of my life I have studied religion and have come to the conclusion that all single deity religions except Satan worshipers worship the same God, some call him God, some call him Allah, some call him the Great Spirit, and yet all the religions I've com in contact with will be really quick to say the other religions are going to hell because their wrong. Now if your all worshiping the same God, then how can one religion be wrong and one be right?

I absolutely agree with you Wolfen. And some who call themselves religious will even try to tell you that it is not the same God! I have heard some Muslims claim, for example, that Allah is not just their definition of the same God. Madness. Gives extremists something to kill for, I guess. I feel that every man has his own road to God, his own relationship with God, and that is his own business. And I am always happy to shake on that.