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August 15th, 2009   Post 1
the_13th_redneck
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Post; Obama on insurance companies


http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...BrandChannel=0
Basically President Obama claims that insurance companies are bankrupting American families and businesses and is holding America "hostage" and making great profits from it.
Doesn't sound too far from the truth either and I'm glad someone's standing up to these guys for a change.
5.56's insurance company Aetna, got a favorable honorable mention as the one company that's actually stuck to the agreements made with the government. Which probably means the others have been using their lawyers to find loopholes and circumvent agreements.
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August 15th, 2009   Post 2
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But he gets knocked on for trying to interfere at all with "capitalism."

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August 15th, 2009   Post 3
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Polling shows that well over half of the people polled ranked thier health Insurance as "good to excellant". As long as the majority have that opinion ObamaCare will have problems. So were going to see Obama & his coconspirators in the Main Stream Media demonize the Insurance Compnys untill they convince the majority that they were wrong about insurance.
 
August 15th, 2009   Post 4
the_13th_redneck
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Funny thing is, I was very unhappy with the coverage I got while I was stateside compared to the coverage I got in other countries. The price to quality ratio was just horrid. I don't work for mainstream media. I think a few other folks here who have lived in more than one country have similar views on this as well (again, company and military compounds don't count because you're not exposed to the reality of the actual society itself).
As for the poll, we'll need a source.
 
August 15th, 2009   Post 5
wolfen
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I've never had any problems with insurance companies until Obama got elected. the Insurance for me and the wife is good, not expensive at all, and has descent bennies, but my kids were on famis, which is insurance for working families, the insurance for working families was good until Obama care got to congress, now all of a sudden after 10 years, we now make too much to keep famis for the kids (no pay raise in the last 3 years) an yet last year we were well under the cap, now were $3.75 over, which means my kids are now on my city insurance, now with Obama care the city is thinking about canceling the provided insurance when the Obama care starts, which will screw my entire family I agree with redneck though, insurance in other countries is sometimes better than here. I don't liek teh health care reform Obama is trying to get, I think his idea has good intentions, but it will either end up breaking this country to nothig, or state run and totally corrupt and fubar.
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August 15th, 2009   Post 6
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My parents have had nothing but trouble with our insurance company. And we can't switch, because with my father having heart problems no company will take the risk.
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August 15th, 2009   Post 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
Funny thing is, I was very unhappy with the coverage I got while I was stateside compared to the coverage I got in other countries. The price to quality ratio was just horrid. I don't work for mainstream media. I think a few other folks here who have lived in more than one country have similar views on this as well (again, company and military compounds don't count because you're not exposed to the reality of the actual society itself).
As for the poll, we'll need a source.
I can't say I was unhappy with the coverage I got while there but I never had to use it for anything major, however I have not actually heard anything positive about them from people who have had major on going problems in fact in every case the people have either ended up bankrupt from being abandoned by insurance companies or having to go to court to get their money.

There is simply no comparison to the insurance I have here where for around $40 a month I get 100% coverage for myself and wife for all non-elective medical issues (there are other options such as 60/40, 80/20 coverage as well while are cheaper again).

We also have national healthcare as well if I was to ever decide to leave private health, but with all the "no claims" bonuses offered by the company I am with it is unlikely that will ever happen.
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Last edited by MontyB; August 15th, 2009 at 20:20..
 
August 15th, 2009   Post 8
the_13th_redneck
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Well MontyB, what you say is true and it means that the American healthcare system has some serious issues.
What I don't get is why people defend it fanatically almost it seems when it is pretty obviously in need of serious overhaul.
I hope it's not another case of nationalism.
There were some pretty good policy ideas that were considered here as well that would have saved people a LOT of time and money (such as the plan to impliment more English into the national curriculum not just for language but also for the subjects the students learn such as math and science) and it got shot down because of nationalism. All the while parents spend a fortune sending their kids off to English Academies after school to learn... English!
 
August 16th, 2009   Post 9
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For those of you who said they never had any problems, I am just curious have ever had any major surgury that is expensive? Because THAT was were the majority of problems start coming from. The HMOs pose no hinderence to their customers as long as they stay healthy, its when they start getting sick that issues arise. Let me remind you all that the leading cause of bankruptcy in America is due to medical costs.

Then of course is the 47 Million Americans that have no insurance at all.
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August 16th, 2009   Post 10
MontyB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
Well MontyB, what you say is true and it means that the American healthcare system has some serious issues.
What I don't get is why people defend it fanatically almost it seems when it is pretty obviously in need of serious overhaul.
I hope it's not another case of nationalism.
There were some pretty good policy ideas that were considered here as well that would have saved people a LOT of time and money (such as the plan to impliment more English into the national curriculum not just for language but also for the subjects the students learn such as math and science) and it got shot down because of nationalism. All the while parents spend a fortune sending their kids off to English Academies after school to learn... English!
The problem is that as long as there is party politics nothing will change, Republicans suggest a fix and Democrats shoot it down, Democrats suggest a fix and Republicans shoot it down and it doesn't matter how good the fix is.

Friends a very opposed to healthcare reform primarily because and I quote "I don't want my tax money spent on other people" which intrigues me as these guys wrap themselves in the flag and have all done service in various branches of the military and I find it odd that people are prepared to lay down their lives for people that they are not prepared to help in any other way.
 



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