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October 22nd, 2010   #1
HokieMSG
 
 

NPR Fires Juan Williams info


So Juan Williams speaks his mind on Foxnews and gets fired.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...712737&ps=cprs

I guess it all worked out because Foxnews offered him a $2M contract.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=130746229

I find it very interesting that Barara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg came to his defense.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...efund-network/


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October 22nd, 2010   #2
Rob Henderson
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HokieMSG
So Juan Williams speaks his mind on Foxnews and gets fired.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...712737&ps=cprs

I guess it all worked out because Foxnews offered him a $2M contract.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=130746229

I find it very interesting that Barara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg came to his defense.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...efund-network/
They were wrong to fire him. He was wrong to say what he said.


Again, it's a question of Islamophobic bias. Fox News celebrates it, NPR doesn't allow it.

Religious discrimination coming from such a prominent figure in the news world is simply not acceptable (Unless of course that news correspondent happens to work for Fox).

However, I do not want my opinion on what Williams said to cloud my opinion of NPR's releasing him. I do not think they should have fired him for saying that. I think a public verbal flogging should have been enacted, and then they should've given him a chance to redeem himself. A man of his stature and education should realize his mistake and know what to do to remedy the situation without compromising his views on the matter.


Although I must admit it does absolutely nothing to help Fox News' credibility when they hire a man shortly after he is released for Islamophobic comments. ROFLMAO
 
October 22nd, 2010   #3
HokieMSG
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Henderson
They were wrong to fire him. He was wrong to say what he said.


Again, it's a question of Islamophobic bias. Fox News celebrates it, NPR doesn't allow it.

Religious discrimination coming from such a prominent figure in the news world is simply not acceptable (Unless of course that news correspondent happens to work for Fox).

However, I do not want my opinion on what Williams said to cloud my opinion of NPR's releasing him. I do not think they should have fired him for saying that. I think a public verbal flogging should have been enacted, and then they should've given him a chance to redeem himself. A man of his stature and education should realize his mistake and know what to do to remedy the situation without compromising his views on the matter.


Although I must admit it does absolutely nothing to help Fox News' credibility when they hire a man shortly after he is released for Islamophobic comments. ROFLMAO
See my post in your thread about Foxnews Bias
 
October 22nd, 2010   #4
Chief Bones
 
 

They were wrong to fire him AND he was NOT wrong to say what he said.

Tell me that you don't feel uncomfortable when you get on an airplane when there are a couple of men dressed in Muslim (Mideast) garb - robes, turbans, etc. In this day and age of terrorists and suicide bombers .. after 9/11, etc .. you can't help but look askance at someone who has chosen to show they are more interested in celebrating their Muslim beliefs instead of fitting in to their surroundings (which is mostly of the slacks, suits, garments, etc genre).

Before you claim my beliefs are because I have a phobia, bull - 9/11 wasn't carried out by Hispanics or the boys hanging out on an American street corner ... they were carried out by extremist Muslims.

That can't help but raise concerns.
 
October 22nd, 2010   #5
HokieMSG
 
 
I agree with you Chief. It addresses a deeper seated issue that many people have with muslims who dress in traditional garb. Because the extermists were muslims, and dressing traditionally sets them apart from the general public. If traditional Christians dressed differently they might experience the smae thing. However I do feel that nothing would have happened to Mr Williams if he had said the smae thing about Christians.
 
October 22nd, 2010   #6
George
 
Williams was fired for violation of P.C. Didn't matter to them if it was the truth.
 
October 22nd, 2010   #7
Chief Bones
 
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by HokieMSG
I agree with you Chief. It addresses a deeper seated issue that many people have with Muslims who dress in traditional garb. Because the extremists were Muslims, and dressing traditionally sets them apart from the general public. If traditional Christians dressed differently they might experience the same thing. However I do feel that nothing would have happened to Mr Williams if he had said the same thing about Christians.
I agree with you ... there IS a double standard between Christian and Muslim. At best, had he made a similar comment about a Christian, there would have only been a "wink wink" comment.


* Corrected spelling within the quote.
 
October 23rd, 2010   #8
mmarsh
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Bones
They were wrong to fire him AND he was NOT wrong to say what he said.

Tell me that you don't feel uncomfortable when you get on an airplane when there are a couple of men dressed in Muslim (Mideast) garb - robes, turbans, etc. In this day and age of terrorists and suicide bombers .. after 9/11, etc .. you can't help but look askance at someone who has chosen to show they are more interested in celebrating their Muslim beliefs instead of fitting in to their surroundings (which is mostly of the slacks, suits, garments, etc genre).

Before you claim my beliefs are because I have a phobia, bull - 9/11 wasn't carried out by Hispanics or the boys hanging out on an American street corner ... they were carried out by extremist Muslims.

That can't help but raise concerns.
Sorry Chief, but I don't feel unconfortable I see them every single day on the metro going to a from work. I even work with a few. 9 years after 9-11, I am still here. There are 1 Billion Muslims in the world and only about 20,000 terrorists. Chances of meeting a real terrorist, less than winning the lottery. I dont let fear run my life, and I don't like it when far right-wing pundits try and create atmospheres of fear (like Hitler did in the 30s) either.

And you shouldn't neither, because real terrorists in the West don't dress in Middle Eastern Garb. They were western clothing, shave their beards and give every impression they are like everyone else. The last thing a REAL terrorist wants to do is stick out and attract unwanted notice. If you see some dressed in Middle Eastern Garb you can be assure that person IS NOT a terrorist.

Could you imagine if a white man had said BLACK people dressed like gang members made him feel nervous? Williams is Black, I doubt even he would have liked that remark.

THEY WERE RIGHT TO FIRE HIM

He had been warned about such comments before, this WASN'T the first time. Lets not forget that NPR was his boss, he wasnt just a guest, he was their employee. He was given a second chance after he said that Michelle Obama "Stokely Carmichael in a designer dress thing going”. A nasty personal remark against he first lady. He was warned after that not to make such incendiary comments or personal attacks again. He agreed not to do so. FOX NEWS might tolerate that type of hatefulness, but NPR doesn't. He also know he was skating thin ice with NPR because NPR wasn't happy that he was a paid rent-a-mouth on FOX. Which is understandable, who wants an employee who works both for you and the competition at the same time? I'd have fired him for that alone. NPR did him a favor by not firing him before.

So he was walking in thin ice before...and then he deliberately decided not to follow the rules HIS BOSS set, he got sh*t-canned. Its not exactly a shocker, if I deliberately disobey my boss's directions I can get fired too. And now here is crying that its because of bias. There is no bias here, next time when YOUR BOSS tells you to do something you better A) do it, or B) quit. But if you defy your boss like Williams did, you better start sending out your resume.

What happened was this: Williams tested NPR patience one to many times. Sorry No sympathy.


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Last edited by mmarsh; October 23rd, 2010 at 22:41..
 
October 23rd, 2010   #9
Chukpike
 
If anyone wants to hear what Williams said that got him fired follow the link.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...3743.htmlstory

You can also hear his comments on being fired.

This got him fired, at the same time 21 different media organizations join in support of the Reverend Phillips right to "Free Speech".

Snyder v. Phelps, Docket No. 09-751 US Supreme Court

Amicus brief
Brief for the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press and Twenty-one News Media Organizations in Support of Respondent (Respondent is Reverend Phillips and his church.)

Examples of "Free Speech" news media wants to protect:

"Thank God for Dead soldiers"
"GOD HATES FAGS"
http://www.godhatesfags.com/index.html (Phelps's website)

But NPR fires Williams over his comments that, when he is on a plane with Muslims, "I get nervous."
 
October 23rd, 2010   #10
George
 
Exactly how was his comment about Mrs. Obama bigotry?
 



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