It's a bit out of date, but is still interesting. Turkish soldiers captured by the PKK, is on trial after their release, for not duing for their country.
So, do you think this is undemocrathic?

Personally, i don't think it's fair puthing them on trial, just let them be discraced, but that's me and my militaristic beliefs.

You can find the story here.
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/ov/ar...r-country.aspx

It's an odd one this but they could be Kurdish Turks who don't want to fight other Kurds. this is the sort of story that all kinds of slants can be put on to it.

I don't really know how to put this, but I'll throw it out anyway:

Dying for your country shouldn't be your goal; instead, it should be fighting to survive.


It's somewhat a messy... but I hope someone will get what I'm trying to say. I'm too lazy to think any deeper into it.

That's what cost Japan one heck of a lot of soldiers during WWII.

I understand this fully.
As for the part where the Turkish press didn't scream about the kidnappings/captures everywhere... maybe they have a little more in the way of ethics than the American press who would have used the "people have the right to know" punch line to release whatever the heck they wanted.
As for the eight that were captured, I know for sure that if my group (RoKMC) was captured without a fight, we would face a general court martial.
Generations of people before me have fought to the death and showing what an easy target I am endangers my other comrades.

Mind you, I see this differently from guys who are surrounded in a city for a whole week who now have no food and ammunition to continue and reluctantly surrender. That is different.
Unfortunately the guys who wrote the article don't seem to see the difference between the two, but what do you expect from a reporter?

If you have given it your best shot and there's simply nothing more to be done to harm the enemy, surrender makes sense. Unless of course the enemy is savage like the Japanese in WWII. Then you fight till you cannot move your body or you die.

Wolf, I get it perfectly. Your right, you got to fight it to the end, try to survive, and try, if it takes your life, to fight for the survival of your country.

Dying for your country is one of the most admirable deaths, but it's not for everyone.

If you wear the uniform, it better be for you.

Stalin used to do the same thing.

He would try and either execute or deport soldiers who had the audacity to either surrender or retreat. I guess that's sums up my feelings.

(Then again, if they had known how the Nazis treated Soviet POW's they might have been better off if they had fought to the death, instead of being butchered like Cattle).

Not exactly the same thing mmarsh.
Stalin did that even to people who fought hard. We have a case here of apparent surrender without even an attempt at struggle.
If you're going to dick around in the mountains and throw your hands up at first contact, why is the country even paying for your equipment, let alone your food.