First and foremost, I believe that is so. Not a time to ponder other issues I guess.

Originally Posted by c/Commander

From what I hear, when you're in combat, you're not there for your country. You're there for the sailors, Marines, soldiers - whoever - on your left and right. You don't fight and die for your country, you fight and die for them. PO2 Monsoor wasn't thinking of his country when he jumped on a grenade, he was thinking of his buddies. Same with Cpl. Dunham, and a whole host of other Medal of Honor winners. It's not about your country when you're getting shot at. Let the generals think about that.

well said...

Originally Posted by Del Boy

MM - are you sure that they were Royal Marines - off the top of my head I am trying to recall? If they were, then I would be very interested to know precisely what their real political instructions were. They certainly took a great deal of abuse here for their actions, but you know what damn liars we are!

As far as I know there where ONE RM in that group.
The weird thing about that mess is.
They claim to have been in international waters but the Royal Navy ship they came from did not support the troops in the zodiac in this tensed situation that went into hostile action by the Iranian gunboats.

The whole thing stinks to high heavens and gave the RN a huge black eye around the world.


As far as the original topic.
Dying for your country is one of the risks you´ll hae to be prepared to take when you sign on the dotted line.
The mentality must always be, never surrender.

Originally Posted by KJ

As far as I know there where ONE RM in that group.
The weird thing about that mess is.
They claim to have been in international waters but the Royal Navy ship they came from did not support the troops in the zodiac in this tensed situation that went into hostile action by the Iranian gunboats.

The whole thing stinks to high heavens and gave the RN a huge black eye around the world.


As far as the original topic.
Dying for your country is one of the risks you´ll hae to be prepared to take when you sign on the dotted line.
The mentality must always be, never surrender.

Amen.
Never surrender.