Originally Posted by Cadet Seaman

I was talking with my father last night, and he gave me the low down on the Type-90. Most of it design and layout are copies of the Leo 2 and M1A1 because we gave them the plans, thats why they use the M256 120mm and M2HB.

Also if you look at the turret it's almost exactly like the Leo 2 and the engine deck is like the M1A1's.

It does look pretty similar to the early Leo 2. Not a bad thing at all to be copies of those 2 tanks.

Japanese do have a reputation for perfecting other people's designs but having no creativity themselves - sounds like another classic example.

Originally Posted by sandy

well well it is Famous story,but look.
this is the Proto type-90




Is this copy of leo2&m1?
The end of twist and turn
It became such shape.

My father is Master Gunner on the M1A1/A2, M60A3 TTS, and M48A5, I think he knows what he's talking about.

He's a few pictures of the Type-90.








Might I also add that there where three prototype's of the M1 before it was produced and each one was different, each made by a different company.

I also don't think it's a fluke that it uses the German made M256 120mm and an American design M2HB Browning.

Those flat sides are going to make for some solid "whumps" on the boys inside I think. Kinda seems like a bit of a brain fart when you think about the physics of deflection.

Originally Posted by bulldogg

Those flat sides are going to make for some solid "whumps" on the boys inside I think. Kinda seems like a bit of a brain fart when you think about the physics of deflection.

LOL, true.

Seems to be a good Tank and more like a T-90 in design.

The gun is very good, but this MBT lacks a bit in armour.

I think that this MBT is mainly designed to meet challenge from North Korean MBT's. But I might be wrong though.

Originally Posted by bulldogg

Those flat sides are going to make for some solid "whumps" on the boys inside I think. Kinda seems like a bit of a brain fart when you think about the physics of deflection.

Same thing was said about the A5 turret armour, and the critics was quickly silenced!

And may I ask what the problem is with it looking like other designs, most tanks look alike, besides the merkava! And I dont think it looks at all alot like Leo 2 A4 (which im guessing your refering to) it does have some simularites but the turret design is different, quite alot to that of the Leo 2 A4. The rear doesnt look at all as most other tanks as the surface is level with that of the front.

PS all is refering to the illustration.

Originally Posted by AlexKall

Same thing was said about the A5 turret armour, and the critics was quickly silenced!

And may I ask what the problem is with it looking like other designs, most tanks look alike, besides the merkava! And I dont think it looks at all alot like Leo 2 A4 (which im guessing your refering to) it does have some simularites but the turret design is different, quite alot to that of the Leo 2 A4. The rear doesnt look at all as most other tanks as the surface is level with that of the front.

PS all is refering to the illustration.

Did you take a look at the pics I posted?

Its not so much about the armour as it is the geometry Alex. The armour will stop the shell pentrating but it does not, to my understanding, lessen the effects of the physics of an object smacking the out of the hull. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't this much akin to a bullet proof vest whereby the bullet doesn't penetrate your body BUT the kinetic energy of the projectile if it hits you squarely will hurt like a .

Originally Posted by Cadet Seaman

I also don't think it's a fluke that it uses the German made M256 120mm and an American design M2HB Browning.

Is the M2HB Browning not a Belgian design?

HI,

Wow Twins ........ If Someone hasen't said It's Japanese Type 90 i would not have known



^ this is NOt Type 90



Peace
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