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March 29th, 2005   Post 11
Corocotta
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I heard that Chavez has territorial ambitions in Colombia....I do not know if there are territories of Colombia wich were from Venezuela in the recent past...May be thats why...

Have any of you heard about this rumor?: European islamist are trying to introduce islamism in central and south america in order to make more radical to the natives....
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March 29th, 2005   Post 12
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There are always disputed borders in Latin America. Occasionally Columbia and Panama have their disputes, Venezuela and Columbia and Peru and Ecuador have theirs. It depends on whose Maps or claims you choose to believe.

I've heard that there are attempts to import Islam. But I feel that they will fall far short of what any radical hopes for. Latin America as you know is heavily Roman Catholic not only as a religion but as part of the culture. Protestant Religions have made some small inroads but as a Peruano friends wife told me.... " Yes I go to a Bapitist Church...But I will always be Catholic." I don't think a religion such as Islam will appeal to the people who are targeted by Radical Groups in Latin America, the pobres.
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March 29th, 2005   Post 13
the_13th_redneck
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Whatever, it's a bad day for the reputation of Europe in general if one of their big members start doing things like this. Almost like "an enemy of America is my friend" attitude from this new government.
I could tell from the beginning when this guy was running... sometimes you can just tell by looking at someone. I know people say looks aren't always everything but often, looks tell you a lot about someone.
The idiots here in Korea who go to jail for corruption etc, just take one look at them. They even LOOK like criminals!
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March 29th, 2005   Post 14
Corocotta
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completely right 13th..... Just look at him......
 
March 29th, 2005   Post 15
Pierrot
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Excuse me but I believe that Chavez took democratically the power. The opposition tried to overturn him and a referendum took place : Chavez won, so let's him quiet.
Moreover, with the support of the US in Colombia, I doubt Venezuela will attack them....(with what would they attack : some CN-295 ?...)
But why is he disturbing you ? Because he decided to nationalize the oil companies, because he is trying to improve the social level of its population, because the US has told us it is a bad regime ?

And attacking Zapaterro by his physical appearance... it's a bit short for an argumentation, even if I don't agree with him concerning the project of the EU constitution, but it is an other topic...
 
March 29th, 2005   Post 16
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Originally Posted by Pierrot
Excuse me but I believe that Chavez took democratically the power. The opposition tried to overturn him and a referendum took place : Chavez won, so let's him quiet.
Moreover, with the support of the US in Colombia, I doubt Venezuela will attack them....(with what would they attack : some CN-295 ?...)
But why is he disturbing you ? Because he decided to nationalize the oil companies, because he is trying to improve the social level of its population, because the US has told us it is a bad regime ?

And attacking Zapaterro by his physical appearance... it's a bit short for an argumentation, even if I don't agree with him concerning the project of the EU constitution, but it is an other topic...

I suggest that you listen or read some of Hugito's rhetoric concerning his nieghboring countries. As far as the US saying he's bad, his nieghbors aren't too happy with him ethier notably Columbia, The Columbian goverment tends to get upset when other Nations harbor FARC Commanders and deny they have them. His anti American rhetoric doesn't bother me it makes him suspect, just like other anti American rhetoric slinging countries (who shall remain nameless) are suspect in my eyes.

He distrubs me because he is following Castros play book and would like nothing better than to be the "Castro of South America". He's Marxist and given the opportunity he will help expand any Marxist Group in South America. He's already suspected of aiding FARC.
 
March 30th, 2005   Post 17
the_13th_redneck
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Pierre, I'm saying Zapaterro even looks like a man up to no good and pointed it out after we've pretty much concluded that he doesn't know what he's doing. If he was a decent guy and I said that, then yes that's a bit unfair but that is not the case.
 
March 30th, 2005   Post 18
Corocotta
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Excuse me but I believe that Chavez took democratically the power
Well, we do not have to point here how many dictatorships began with a democratic elections.

My critics to Zapatero were due to his politic friends such us Castro and Hugo Chavez. I did not agree with some of the exterior policy of Aznar, but I prefer his politic allies better than Zapatero´s. I rather be in US side better that in the side of the latin american marxist.
 
March 30th, 2005   Post 19
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Originally Posted by staurofilakes
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Excuse me but I believe that Chavez took democratically the power
Well, we do not have to point here how many dictatorships began with a democratic elections.

My critics to Zapatero were due to his politic friends such us Castro and Hugo Chavez. I did not agree with some of the exterior policy of Aznar, but I prefer his politic allies better than Zapatero´s. I rather be in US side better that in the side of the latin american marxist.
Yeah, the miracle of democracies is not the elections of leaders, but rather in the peaceful transition of power between them.
 
March 30th, 2005   Post 20
Corocotta
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Yeah, the miracle of democracies is not the elections of leaders, but rather in the peaceful transition of power between them.
Yes, I completely agree with you. Politics should´t be in the power more than certain years. In Spain for example before Aznar´s goverment we had a socialist one, they stayed 13 years in power and the corruption was generalizated. They stole millions and millions of euros.