Topic: The New Iraqi Military 2

Sexybeast · February 25th, 2005

in the street war in Falluja....Iraqi troops helped Americans.

most of those iraqi troops , i ve heard, were ex-Saddam's soldiers

Snauhi · February 25th, 2005

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Originally Posted by Sexybeast

in the street war in Falluja....Iraqi troops helped Americans.

most of those iraqi troops , i ve heard, were ex-Saddam's soldiers

Yes and they died VERY hard, because they were used as the frontline troops.

Big_Z · February 25th, 2005

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Originally Posted by Snauhi

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Originally Posted by Sexybeast

in the street war in Falluja....Iraqi troops helped Americans.

most of those iraqi troops , i ve heard, were ex-Saddam's soldiers

Yes and they died VERY hard, because they were used as the frontline troops.

They weren't used as front line troops.... American Marines and Soldiers would fight there way through a city block taking out most of the resistance and the Iraqis would come up from the rear to mop up what was left. Our goal is to build their military up and train them, not get them slaughtered.

SHERMAN · February 25th, 2005

yes, but since this is the hardware forum, maybe we should go back on topic.

IAmFighter · February 25th, 2005

In terms of small arms, the Iraqi Army is being equipped with AK-47s, RPK machine guns, RPGs, etc. Soviet-bloc weapons that they're used to and are reliable in that kind of environment. They're also cheap to aquire, making it easier on the Iraqi economy.

Armor and aircraft however, I'm not so sure about. The question is if they'll go with Russian tanks and fighters or if they'll follow the example of the Saudis and scrap them in favor of American M1 Abrams and F-15 Eagles. That's what I would do if I was the Iraqi government, especially since I'm pretty sure that the US military would supply them at low cost. The F-15s would go fast, with the F/A-22 Raptor now beginning to be phased into US Air Force active duty squadron service.

Darcia · February 25th, 2005

The New Military is only a self defense them and with the exception of a helicopter group or two thier are no current plans to create a new iraqi Airforce.

godofthunder9010 · February 25th, 2005

Setting up an Iraqi military without tanks and air power would only guarantee their failure.

As far as the numbers and desertions go, sooner or later the Iraqi people are going to have to take over defending their own country. The United States would absolutely love to hand that job back to the people of Iraq. The problem is convincing them to do it. Anybody got any brilliant ideas there??

Darcia · February 28th, 2005

Well after looking over some reports I have saw the Iraqi's had a nicer military when Saddam was in power than they do now.

Missileer · March 1st, 2005

We killed it.

Darcia · March 4th, 2005

Actualy,We apperently scrapped most of it.

February 25th, 2005	Post 15
IAmFighter Centurion	In terms of small arms, the Iraqi Army is being equipped with AK-47s, RPK machine guns, RPGs, etc. Soviet-bloc weapons that they're used to and are reliable in that kind of environment. They're also cheap to aquire, making it easier on the Iraqi economy. Armor and aircraft however, I'm not so sure about. The question is if they'll go with Russian tanks and fighters or if they'll follow the example of the Saudis and scrap them in favor of American M1 Abrams and F-15 Eagles. That's what I would do if I was the Iraqi government, especially since I'm pretty sure that the US military would supply them at low cost. The F-15s would go fast, with the F/A-22 Raptor now beginning to be phased into US Air Force active duty squadron service. __________________ \"The advance of hope in the Middle East requires new thinking in the region. By now it should be clear that authoritarian rule is not the way of the future it is the last gasp of a discredited past. Democracy is their goal and terrorists themselves have reason to fear.\" ~President George W. Bush Do not attack the First Marine Division. Leave the yellowlegs alone. Strike the American Army. ~Orders given to Communist troops in the Korean War; shortly afterward, the Marines were ordered to not wear their khaki leggings.

February 25th, 2005	Post 16
Darcia Tribuni Angusticlavii	The New Military is only a self defense them and with the exception of a helicopter group or two thier are no current plans to create a new iraqi Airforce. __________________ ^_^

February 25th, 2005	Post 17
godofthunder9010 Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	Setting up an Iraqi military without tanks and air power would only guarantee their failure. As far as the numbers and desertions go, sooner or later the Iraqi people are going to have to take over defending their own country. The United States would absolutely love to hand that job back to the people of Iraq. The problem is convincing them to do it. Anybody got any brilliant ideas there?? __________________ "It is well that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it." - General Robert E. Lee Warning, critical pebkac error in the iD10t!! pebkac\wtflolurpwnzd\snafuroflmao.exe called iD10t, iD10t failed to respond!! System in danger!! "It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man." -Chevy Chase

March 1st, 2005	Post 19
Missileer Nuclear Duck Hunter Gear	We killed it. __________________ “War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.” —John Stuart Mill

February 25th, 2005	Post 11
Sexybeast Banned	in the street war in Falluja....Iraqi troops helped Americans. most of those iraqi troops , i ve heard, were ex-Saddam's soldiers

February 25th, 2005	Post 14
SHERMAN Milforum Moderator Gear	yes, but since this is the hardware forum, maybe we should go back on topic.

February 28th, 2005	Post 18
Darcia Tribuni Angusticlavii	Well after looking over some reports I have saw the Iraqi's had a nicer military when Saddam was in power than they do now.

March 4th, 2005	Post 20
Darcia Tribuni Angusticlavii	Actualy,We apperently scrapped most of it.